TonyT

I ahve used 3.9 gr. of WST under either 155 gr. or 180 gr. Star FMJ for a mild load in a P16-40. It does require a lighter recoil spring.

I have found 3.6 to 4.0 gr. Clays under the 230gr. Star jacketed or Rainer to be nice and accurate in both my autos and revolvers.

I use Federal primers for revolver loads and Winchester or Remington for the auto loads.

I have used 3.6 to 3.9 gr. of WST behind 155 and 180 gr. lead or jacketed loads. Quite pleasant to shoot and very accurate in both revolvers andauto's. The auto mighht require a lighter recoil spring with some loads.

The manufacturer of Winchesterv firearms and Winchester ammunition are not the same. Olin corporationm sold the Winchester trademark for firearms to US Repeating Arms Co which was subsequently sold to Fabrique National of Belgium. The ammunition is manufactured by the Olin Corporation. They may be outsourcing production to keep costs down. AThis will continue as long as Americans are dumb enough to buy the cheapest product without supporting American manufacturers.

I used 3.6 gr. of Clays with the Speer 200 gr. LSWC for superb accuracy out of my 45's. Tony PS: A quite mild load at ca. 735 fps with the Winchester primer

When I shot lead 147 gr bullets , I used 3.5 gr, of W-231. It meters well and is quite accurate. Tony

I have used 3.4 gr.of Tiregroup with the 147 gr Star FMJ with excellent results. Nice groups and very soft shooting. Tony

I stand corrected. Imeant why use 5.4 gr. when the manual lists the max at5.0 gr. Tony

I have used 3.6 to 4.0 gr. Clays wwith the 230 gr. Rainier and federal primer in the S&W625 in addition to several autos (1911, PO14-45, Pardini GT-45, Sig220). Tony

I have loaded the 200 gr. Speer LSWC behind 3.6 gr. Clays with good results in a Jarvis barreled 1911. You could also use HS-700X with a few uburned grains but no leading with the Star 185 gr LSWCHP at moderate velocities of 720 to 750fps. Tony

Universal Cl;ays is an excellent powder with the jacketed 180gr. bullets. I have not used it with rainiers and use WST for lead bullets. Tony

I have used 3.4 to 3.6 gr. of WST with the Federal primers and 155 to 180gr lead bullets with outstanding accuracy from a S&W646 or Para16-40 with a 15lb spring. These are real mild loads but do knock down steel plates albeit slowly. Tony

I have used 3.6 gr. of WST with the Federal primer for verylight loads in my S&W646 and Para16-40. Very pleasant load and knocks down the steel plates (albeit they fall slowly). Tony

Why use 5.4 gr. of WST when the Winchester manual has 5.4gr as MAX with 180gr jacheted at 28000psi? Tony

The old reliable 2.7 to 2.8 gr. Bullseye behind the Remington 148 gr. HBWC seated flush and roll crimped has functioned flawlessly in my 52's. Tony

I believe that HS-6 is similar to W-540. WSF appears to be faster burning than HS-6. Tony

Experienced the same problem. Bent the priming arm and Dillin sent me a complete new priming bar. It was a newer type with a closed bottom whereas the old one had an open bottom. Had many problems with primer feeding after several calls to dillon mentioned the primer bar with the closed bottom. They immedioately said they had experienced the same problem and sent me a replacement which was like my original, open bottom. No problems since then. Tony

Carlos, The 155 & 180 gr. LTC's were shot in a S&W646 and chronographed as follows: 155 gr. LTC 3.4gr WST=80s fps SD10 3.6 gr WST=831fps SD8 180gr. LTC 3.4 gr. WST=778fps SD17 3.6gr WST=798fps SD8 The Star jacketed bullets were chronographed from a CZ-40B as follows: 155 gr. Satr FMJ 3.6gr WST = 756fps SD16 3.9gr WST=829fps SD9 165gr Star FMH 3.6 gr WST=757fsp SD11 3.9gr WST=815fps SD16 180gr Star FMJ 3.6gr WST=724fps SD9 3.9gr WST=778fps SD14 All the above date were with the Federal oprimer as I use them for plinking/IDPA/Steel loads in the SW646. They are supperbly accurate in both my S&W646, S&W610 and the CZ-40B. The 3.4 gr. LTC loads and jacketed loads also shoot very accurately in my PO16-40 with Wolf reduced weight recoil springs. Tony

I had the same experience with Rainier bullets and the Lee FCD. Switched to a normal crimping die. Tony

I have used 3.4 to 3.6 gr. WST with 155 & 180 gr. LTC's with federal priomers with outstanding results for a very mild load. With 155, 165 & 180 gr. Star FMJ's I use 3.6 to 3.9 gr. WST with Federal primers. The 3.6 gr. WST load is amazingly accurate with all the bullet weights I have tried in both lead and jacketed. That S&W 646 is a real sweetie! Tony

I have used 3.4-3.6 gr. WST with the 155 & 180 gr. LTC's for a extreemely accurate light load. Similarly have used 3.6-3.9 gr. WST behind the Star 155, 165 & 180 gr. FMJ's with outstanding results. Tony

WST is fine for light plinking loads. I have used 3.4 gr. behind the 155 and 180 gr. LTC for steel plate shoots. The plates move albeit somewhat slowly. It's like shooting a 22. The topic starter mentioned a load of 5.3 gr. WST behind a 180 gr. lead bullet. The Winchester max is 5.0 gr. at 33200 psi, anyone approaching or using beyond these limits does so at his own peril. Tony