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At the make ready can I use a magazine with 11 rounds at the make ready on a loaded start in production?

Thanks but you never know here.

No, because they didn't start with the production gun cocked and locked. But if you use a 170 to Barney up with in production, welcome to open. I think that is a stupid rule, but that is the way the rules are written.

There is no bump to pcc

Please show the rule that says after the start signal is the only time magazine length applies. If that is the case how can chrono bump you to open for too long of mags, or you shoot for no score in open if your mags are too long? There is no start signal at the chrono stage.

You barney with a 170 in any division but Open, welcome to open. The rule about magazine capacity in production says no more than 10 rounds in any magazine after the start signal. But magazine max lengths apply during the cof. The cof starts at make ready.

There was no equipment violation, if the shooter didn't start with hammer back safety on. Holstering a gun with the hammer back safety on is not a rules violation, starting the stage with the hammer back safety on would be. If someone is looking to bump someone to open for momentarily holstering a double action pistol in production with hammer back safety on, but not starting the stage like that is a major douche bag.

If the shooter corrects it, nothing happens since he did not start with the hammer back safety on. No rules were violated.

You have not started shooting yet, so if you correct it, before the timer goes off, what rule have you violated that would put you in open? Correcting it before the timer going off and then a bump to Open, I would love to file a 3rd party arbitration on that.

True, but the RM made him reshoot the stage. The range officers and RM need to learn and follow the rules.

Wrong, once he started the stage in that condition he is bumped to open. If he would have realized before the beep it was not correct, he could have fixed it.

Second RO screwed up, what rule after make ready says the r.o. is to tell the shooter their gun is not in the correct ready condition for production? If the r.o. sees a shooter put a mag in but doesn't rack the slide, should the r.o. tell the shooter to rack the slide?

In this case a safety warning was given after the 180 was broken, and it happened more than once on this stage with the CRO.

My point was the shooters, it happened more than once had already broken 180. If a shooter is on the 180 line but not past it, what rule have they violated and why would a CRO warn them when it is not considered unsafe to be on the 180?

Happened more than once on this stage, I got tired of having guns pointed at me so I quit watching people shoot that stage. Was an RMI acting as CRO on this stage but didn't DQ people for breaking 180.

Is a CRO at Nationals that happens to be an RMI coaching when they said Muzzle when a shooter pointed a loaded gun at the squad?

What rule ?

Bump to Open It is the shooters responsibility to prepare their gun for the stage, p After the shooter finished the stage, the RM should have been notified the shooter started with a production gun cocked with safety on at start and the RM should have moved him to open. This is not a wrong start position issue, it is a wrong ready condition issue and a bump to open. The second R.O. needs to learn the rules and follow them, he should have let the shooter shoot the stage and then inform the RM tjatvthe production shooter started with the hammer cocked and safety on. What rule supports a reshoot? If you are going to be an R.O. RM you need to know the rules, follow them and not make s#!t up.

Why cant you DQ someone for failure to follow the reasonable command of Match Officials if they refuse to reset? In arbitration they should lose unless they can show a rule that says they don't have to listen to match officials or a rule saying they don't have to reset. If the shooter doesn't help reset, what happens if the r.o. doesn't call them up to shoot? Just skip over them and not run them, that should teach them to help reset.

Percentage wise 20% is a lot. I thought to be closer and expected more in carry optics than limited. I was surprised the huge swing between open and pcc, and only 1 PCC was in the top 10 of combined, the guys bringing rifles to pistol matches got smoked by the pistol shooters.

About a 20% more are shooting limited than Carry Optics. About 48% more people shot open than PCC. Carry Optics isn't really that new.

More Open Shooters at Nationals than PCC More Linited Shooters at Nationals than Carry Optic.

No access to the trigger on a holstered gun, so you can't sweep yourself.

What rule says when in doubt the benefit goes to the shooter?