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I absolutely agree with you that having competitors not participate in stage reset would lead to an "us vs. them" situation. I've been to a big IPSC match where there was staff reset, and while I get why they do it, I saw the most entitled, elitist competitors I hope I ever see. It was necessary to have staff reset for consistency, efficiency and because honestly a lot of people would cheat. We have no idea how good we have it in the USA, and a big part of that is how our democratic and egalitarian ideals permeate society. USPSA being a volunteer-based amateur hobby (I hate calling it a sport) is one of its strengths. People who only take, who have a merely transactional view of matches and the organization are missing out on full participation. The idea of USPSA is that it is oneself against a challenge. It isn't a fight for a prize but a quest for self-improvement. Part of that is in helping others in their own journey, and a tiny portion of that is resetting stages at matches. Staff reset is rare because it takes more staff and asks a lot more of the staff. The recent Georgia state match (2020) had full staff reset but the staff had very generous compensation. The nationals matches have some of the best staff packages but would never work if that staff had to reset for three days. Staff already has to do a lot of labor with scoring targets, running shooters, changing targets, and also has to get there early and stay later than competitors. The really big problem with staff reset at Nationals would be the available pool of ROs. Many arent in the best of shape, and what would happen is they would be even more sidelined into stages which are static. You would lose a lot of the variety of stages because staff reset limitations and convenience would be a factor. What could be done is to have a better system of reset duties per squad, like having the three shooters who are pre-"in the hole" do the reset. Or every squad could be like the Super Squad and just go out there and do the reset without bitching. I only had to yell at one squad on my stage at Race Gun Nationals to paste, and none at Classic Nationals. So to my mind the system seems to be working. I for one am not shy about calling out someone on my squad who isn't resetting, because I don't want to do all the reset myself. If reset works so well at Nationals, why does it seem to be such a bigger problem at lower level matches? That seems to be a way bigger problem.

USPSA has a box for Prod. IPSC does not. They aren't the same rules. Thus, Beretta designed the pistol without concern for width because in IPSC it doesn't matter.

IPSC doesn't have a box for Production.

Thanks for sharing! They seem a bit pricey at €149. I think I'll just take the right side one off if possible when I go to a major match.

92XPerf is now USPSA Production legal. Have to take off one or reduce the safeties to fit the box.

Same thing has happened to me. Clean and oil the slide to frame surfaces and the barrel/locking block surfaces. More lubes fixed these kinds of problems for me. My theory is that the barrel and slide assembly has to overcome a lot of friction early in the recoil impulse. Without oil the gun unlocks slightly too slowly and there isn't enough acceleration to aid in extraction. I oil mine every time I shoot it. I wipe it down and reapply lube.

We've seen rules change, and it is possible to have low profile safeties to thin the gun down. Either one isn't really an impediment. It just shows Beretta are pretty clueless in the USA. Note IPSC has no such box rule but has a maximum barrel length rule. Beretta in Italy obviously cares about IPSC and its sponsors. 92X Performance is on list but:

Bruce, That's exactly what I was saying. Influence is why the money gets spent. The equipment rules are reflecting what influencers want to see. No one wants to make products which aren't legal in USPSA. There doesn't have to be a payoff for influence to be felt. It can as simple as what's good for the sponsors is good for the sport. It let's more people play both manufacturers and shooters so what's the problem? I for one welcome the new weight rules. Hopefully we also can the NROI approved list as well since you can replace literally everything on a gun other than the frame (or serialized part) and be Prd/CO legal. The list was just used by range lawyers, anyway. I would have liked some warning or even maybe some way to vote on the equipment rules before dropping $100 on fancy lightened grips, $600 on an optic, and milling a gun to make weight in what I assumed was a mature division with stable equipment rules. Has it really been two years since CO came out of provisional status? I might be hallucinating but weren't division equipment changes supposed to come no earlier than every couple years? That notion could have been jettisoned with the new living RB, IDK. I'm not really all that salty. Just lightly salted over the perceived opacity to the membership contrasted with the perceived responsiveness of the BOD and powers that be to agile sponsors and manufacturers.

I agree on sources of organizational revenue. How about match and individual revenue, kickbacks, access, favors, etc? Major match sponsors certainly have a say in how USPSA is run and the equipment rules. Probably not much, but money buys influence. Look at politics in the US for an analogy. Taxpayers pay salaries and the budgets of government but donors and business run things because their money is highly directed and consistently applied. Not saying anyone in USPSA is corrupt, but how can anyone be immune to concerns of sponsors and industry influence? I'm very glad I didn't cut up any guns to make weight in CO. Those guns are now a much harder sell and have had their value diminished. Not that used competition guns are worth anything. Production is dumb and its rules are dumb. What I want to know is why bother with the form stating 500 units have been produced when you can make a race gun out of anything as long as you keep the frame relatively similar to stock? Literally everything else can be replaced. Have 500 units of slide mods, barrel mods, trigger mods, etc been made? Why bother with this requirement other than to kiss the ring of NROI? What guns do they need to keep out? The Alien? It honestly sounds like something IDPA would do, and thus is a bad idea. Just check guns at chrono for DA, weight, and box and off you go.

Wow. I reiterate that I think this gun isn't for you. Also, what forum do you think you're on? This forum is about competitive shooting and the XPerf is a competition gun. Behold a competitive shooter using this gun (intro is Ruski but content is English): I ask you what forum you think you are on because you complain about a few things which specifically either help or don't matter to competitive shooters: Slide serrations. They are sharp, which is good. You hurt yourself on the frame when racking the gun? Look how to do it in the video above. Trigger face. Serrated trigger face is a choice. It aids in the finger not slipping and in precise finger placement. Smooth triggers let your finger roll. It's personal preference and if you dont like the serrations you can grind them off. Frame checkering. It's barely there. I guess I have tough hands but all Beretta checkering feels useless to me and I wish it was completely smooth so I could grip tape it. Fitment. Mine is like a watch. Tightest CNC era factory gun I've seen. Maybe you could lube the takedown lever after taking it out and cleaning it and the hole it goes in? I have a surplus Beretta Tomcat which had a rusty lever and I had to clean it up. Not that the Xperf should rust, as the small parts are PVD coated and the frame is nickel plated. Slide stop. The Xperf's is actually extended and slanted on the protrusion so it is easier to reach one handed. I also use my support hand thumb because of habit and not wanting to ever break my grip. The hammer being buried. I agree with you. I wish the hammer was more extended but I've learned how to decock it. My fear is over time I will wear away the finish on the rear sight due to my thumb rubbing on it during make ready. It's worth it for the excellent adjustable rear sight and sight radius, though. Slide bite. If it doesn't do it when you are shooting the gun, then hold it the same way when you rack the slide. Or take the slide to a grinding wheel and round the edges like on the LTT. The mags. It comes with two Mec Gar mags. Not the crappy Beretta factory mags. They hold 15. In USPSA the Production division (which this gun is aimed at but due to Beretta's cluelessness isn't legal for) has a maximum capacity of 10. IPSC Production has 15. What's the problem here? By the way, the Mec Gar 15 rd nickel plated mags are excellent. All 92 mags fit well in the Xperf so you can go buy 18 rd mags or the sand resistant ones. My Xperf isn't perfect. It had a minor bit of finish damage due to shipping because Beretta just throws everything together in the Negrini case with no shaped inserts unlike Tanfo. I also changed the hammer spring to 11# (100% reliable ignition) and the recoil spring to a lighter one with a shock buff. The grips will also be changing once Lok Grips makes palmswells. Your gun isn't unique, but it might just not be for you. I hate P320s and Glocks even though I shoot them just fine. I like the Xperf because it is my favorite version of the 92.

No I think I had to bring it back to get the locking block pin (which impacts the frame and unlocks the barrel) back into alignment with the locking block. The block can wander a bit left to right and if it does so it wont pivot. What Langdon says about living the block makes sense in that context. I'd do whatever Langdon told me to. If they say send it in to them or Beretta you probably should. If you have a competent, experienced gunsmith locally they may also be able to look at it and figure out how to get it apart.

Beretta absolutely won't warranty it? How about talking to Langdon? I spoke to them about my Elite LTT and they helped me figure out the cause of a malfunction. Stupid question: Did you try pushing it the other way i.e. backwards? I had to do that once on my Xperf. Well, maybe not had to but it solved my slide binding issue enough to take the slide off.

RM let me go to Limited 10. Which was nice but I would have been OK with Open. I didn't go to win but to have fun. Which it was. One of the best matches every year.

I'm sorry you dont like the XPerf. It sounds to me like you wanted something that wasn't a gun. I mean, yeah a Taurus clone is the same thing in that it fires 9mm, has a trigger, is made of steel, etc. Elizabeth Warren is a woman and so is Ana de Armas so both should be just as good in every way, right? I get it. The 92X Perf isn't for everyone. My Tanfos, 1911s, Sigs, etc. are all good in their own ways. I honestly don't shoot the Xperf as well as guns I've shot for years. Yet, I love it just the same. It looks pimp, it points so well, the trigger is a joy, and the finish is incredible - so easy to clean. The gun is made extremely well with many aspects geared to high round count. The finish and chromed barrel in particular. I think your kvetching over the disassembly is probably unwarranted. Mine has a bit of tightness to get the slide off and sometimes feels stuck, but I use my hands and take the gun apart. No damage is evident. I want this gun to be a success because I want Beretta to make more guns like this.

Serious question: How did you get to talk to someone at Beretta who knew anything? I nded to get someone there to fill out the form to get the 92X perf on the Production list. Anyone who has advice on this matter is welcome to reply or PM me.

The 92X Perf is NOT on the USPSA Production list. I found out at FL Open. Apparently Beretta hasn't bothered to tell USPSA about it or if they have made enough. Troy doesn't know who to contact at Beretta and neither do I.

I use a Blade Tec 92 holster and it works fine. No interference. Was made for the 92G. There will be Lok grips coming "soon." I for one will definitely be trying them as stippling the nylon grips isn't enough texture nor are they thick enough.

Having shot some IPSC matches I actually prefer the IPSC Production rules for mods and holsters but not for the 15-round capacity. I like 10 round mags and the stage planning/reloading challenges. Locally most mediocre shooters and noobs tend to want to shoot with an optic and high capacity mags. I get why - it's easier. Production is restrictive and difficult. Why bother with it when you can spend more money and make matches easier? Adding five rounds to Production isn't going to make irons any easier to shoot, and there is a big difference between 15 round and 21+ round magazines for large round count stages. There isn't as much between 10 and 15 due to the 8-shot view rule for stage design. Frequently you would need to reload the same amount of times in a stage with either 10 or 15 round magazines. The larger magazine capacity has a greater effect in IPSC than it would in USPSA due to the course length requirements which result in fewer 32 round field courses. The allowance of mods in Production was a sop to sponsors and "stakeholders" just as much as it was an admission that rules enforcement is hard. No manufacturer who is a premier sponsor of Nationals gives a crap about 15 round Production so its chances of happening are near zero.

Dan Wesson Specialist in Duty Treat. Everything hand fit, matching serials on grip safety etc. Fantastic fit and finish. Duty treat finish is the toughest finish I've seen on a gun. The 92X is superior in part die to my liking the sights, ergos, etc better. It also cost less. Plus, .45 is not my favorite caliber. People are paying $1900 for a 92X Performance on Gunbroker and honestly that isn't completely out of line.

I hot one of the 92X Performances, and it's the best gun I've ever owned. Amazingly tight, finish is slick and cleans super easy, ergos are good, and the gun is incredibly accurate. As in touching holes at 25 yards. Some of the accuracy is due to the phenomenal sights and the trigger. It isn't light, but it is nice and wide and the pull reminds me of a Walther PPQ; it's very easy to pull it straight back. I tried a weaker recoil spring, but I believe the factory one is the best for shot recovery. The gun cycles and comes right back extremely quickly. The weight certainly helps in this regard. Speaking of weight, this thing is a boat anchor. Forty-eight ounces! The grips are too slick, but aren't uncomfortable. The extended takedown lever perplexes me. It's not extended enough to use as a thumb rest. Trying to do so resulted in some pain. I found it best to just try and ignore it, but my thumb wants to touch it. The safeties are possibly a bit too small, but I love resting my thumbs on them. Decocking is a challenge, and the rear sight hangs over the hammer by a lot. The slide actually envelops the hammer at rest by more than a normal Beretta 92. The magwell is excellent. Very gradual taper and gets very wide at the opening. I love the finish. It reminds me of nickel boron. Not too flash but I do like my pimp gats. Besides looks the finish makes cleaning so very easy. Oil or CLP or whatever on, agitate with toothbrush, wipe off. The gun came drenched in oil, so I've been keeping it wet. Ejection and function have been flawless. It's a real joy to shoot. This is the first gun I've bought that exceeded my expectations in every way. My only planned upgrades are stippled grips and possibly an extended mag release.

I know this is about the Dawson sights, but I want to mention that you can get a Henning or Extreme sight and those will fit and have enough material that you will get a very tight fit. I had Dawson sights that were loose. I got rid of them. Too much hassle, and I like the Henning sight picture better.

Easy to check coil bind. Take out recoil spring, reassemble gun. Note where slide goes back (as if under recoil) in relation to frame (it will hit the frame near the guide rod). Then, put spring back in and repeat. If gun does not go back as far, you are definitely binding. I figured out that one very possible problem with springs which are Too long but don't bind is that it makes slide lockback and dropping the slide release very difficult due to the spring tension. Maybe it is over stressing the spring. The last round failure to feed is one I've only experienced using .40 followers in a 10mm mag with Henning extensions and very long ammo. I don't think Tanfos feed long rounds as well as a 1911 might.

Just quoting what Henning told me. I got my springs from him and they said 6lb long slide. The progressive Unica springs are longer than the Wolff springs. They work in short slide guns, but compress so much that it makes dropping the slide when locked open quite difficult.

I totally gipped him on the Unica spring delivery. I'm using them myself, and I like the "light" one the best in both minor and major PF long slide guns. They are too long to work well in the short slide guns. There are also "medium" and "hard" springs. I don't know exact weights because I don't have a spring tester. My thoughts will come in a later video, after a grips roundup and some general stuff. I asked Eric Stauffer about them and he does plan to carry them bit warned me they wear out quickly. I prefer a 6 lb long slide spring in my Stock 2s. That is the same as the 8lb long slide spring.

Since I'm a big baby and the recoil from .40 Major made me cry I thought I would try loading long. It made no difference in either PF or perceived recoil. So i am going to stick with .40 standard length ammo.