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Does it require fitting or is it essentially drop in?

I can't offer any advice, but please update this thread with updates of the project. I'm curious how this will work work out.

Give the extractor tunnel and extractor a good cleaning with Alcohol. Don't put any lube on the extractor or tunnel it will just gum things up. Try giving a little extra tension on the extractor. I have never had much luck with STI extractors. Personally, I like Aftec extractors, but plenty of guys have good luck with Wilson or Egw.

Go back to step 1, double check everything. Check for wear marks on the sear spring where the hammer strut is kissing the sear spring. The new hammer may have changed the angle of the hammer strut. So now the strut is rubbing the sear spring. Check to make sure there are no burrs on any surface of the hammer or frame where the hammer glides between the frame. You may need a heavier main spring to increase the speed of the lightened hammer or an extended firing pin (Limcat or Dawson). Next we get into a bunch of hypothetical and speculation on whether things are in spec or installed right.

I also want to add that going with the cheaper Stoeger over the Benelli allowed for a lot money to go towards ammo. The extra ammo and practice time I got out of going with the Stoeger vs the Benelli did benefit me greatly.

My Stoeger runs great. I'm about 2800 rounds in and I've only had it puke about 5 or 6 times. I use whatever the cheapest ammo is available. I've sprayed ballistol and wipe gunk out about every 300 or so rounds. The damn thing works, cheap or not. I only feel I'm giving up some bling factor to the Benelli. I don't feel there has been a single instance having a Benelli would have benefited my performance. That being said, I do plan on buying a Benelli with the works, but I don't expect much if any performance gain.

Is this a generalized statement directed at quotes from other threads? I don't see anyone saying in this thread the Benelli needs a ton of work to be competitive.

Everything you could want to know about the Stoeger. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=173219

On a budget: Stoeger M3000 if you're fairly mechanically inclined to do a little work. It's an exceptional shotgun that can be competitive under $1000. Mossberg JM 930 is also pretty good and can be set up under $1000. If you want to spend some coin: Benelli M2 is fantastic once you do some enhancements. Beretta 1301 is also amazing with a few modifications. The negative to the Beretta and Benelli is the price tag. Both can get pretty pricey once you get them enhanced. The FN SLP is also an option. You can read for many hours here under the shotgun forum about all of these models. If recoil sensitivity is an issue you may want to go with the JM 930, Beretta 1301, or FN SLP. They are a little softer shooting. I personally prefer the Benelli or the Stoeger, but I don't mind a little extra bump.

Thanks for the tips everyone, I went with the KKM.

Nothing! If it runs shoot it and don't tinker with it until something breaks.

The extractor tool isn't necessary, it just comes in handy. A punch and the proper technique works just fine. The paper clip method is described in the videos I mentioned before. It's for taking down the guiderod on bull barrel guns. PM me if you want to link up at a future match. Bamboo is pretty handy with dot guns too if you catch him. In addition, there is a squad of open guys at Malabar that are all very knowledgeable. Sometimes hands on is easier than reading about it.

Production teaches patience and stage break down. Open allows focus on movement. At the end of the day, let him decide. Whatever he has the most fun shooting. This will keep him wanting to go to the range and not being forced to go to the range. Have him shoot a match production then match in open. Whatever he has the most fun with. The competition part of it is great, but at the end of the day you need to have fun.

Depends, for general cleaning or are you trying to do something specific? Paper clip for the guiderod unless you have a recoil master , a small punch can come in handy for putting the sear and hammer back in. Punch and small hammer for the Magwell, an extractor tool makes things easy for getting the hook over the breach face. On YouTube Bobby from Freedom Gunworks has a good 2011 disassembly video, NicTaylor00 has a couple good 2011 videos as well.

I'm not going to cut the frame unless I have to. There are plenty of W/N barrels available. It is an option though.

I've always used Schuemann barrels but they are hard to come by these days. Frame is a Wilson/Nowlin ramp, gun is in 40. Looking at KKM and Barsto, any extra fitting required or advice on one or the other compared to Schuemann fitting wise. Ramp is .500 back from the slide stop. As far as I can tell both seem to be pretty good quality wise. Not looking for a verses or compare contrast debate. I've heard KKM are more time consuming to fit. Just wondering where they are more oversized. Thanks Mike

That's probably what I'll do. The blade width is 2.75mm which is .108 typically I like .100 or less but It will just have to work. Mine shoots a touch low with the factory tritium Sights, so I might go 5.5mm vs the 6.0.

Thanks, but I have no plans on sending it off. I'll install them myself. I don't want to mill and then refinish the slide.

Trying to make sense of the front sight. Does the SP-01 non shadow use the 75B front sight or SP-01 shadow front sight? I found the competition fixed rear sight from cz custom shop, but the front fiber optic seems pretty wide for my taste if I am doing my conversions right. Dawson has front sights but model variations and metric conversion have me scratching my head. Here is the deal, I have a CZ SP-01 regular not the Shadow. I want a thin fiber optic front and a black Serrated rear sight. From what it looks like there are no good adjustable sights since it's not the Shadow. I'm fine with a fixed, provided it's point of impact is at or higher than the point of aim. I don't mind a gun that shoots high, but it drives me nuts if it shoots low. Please school me on this, I searched, I read, I have no idea what to order. So if anyone has a sight combo that fits my above requirements please help me out. Thanks

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If you have a nearby sporting clays range try to find a local shotgun smith. For cutting down stocks I find the sporting clays smiths always do a great job at an affordable rate because they do them so much. Only send away out of State if you are absolutely sure about your measurements. Otherwise find a local guy who will look at the pitch of your shotgun as well.

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