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I was taught to shoot revolvers by craig buckland, he won an irc in classic and a couple if idpa world championships. He shoot thumbs forward. Olhasso, lentz, mcginty all shoot thumb forward, as does miculek when he shoots the fat xframe grip. The short answer is, if it seems to be working dont overthink it. I dont have any particular pointers, i just grab it mostly the same way, support hand wraps(like a c clamp, tips anchor, roll in for pressure rather than squeezing if that makes sense). I eject with thumb, as much as possible i am basically copying jerry. I see a few guys doing the pointer finger eject, notably mike, but mike, and rich, both have an unconventional/graufel style grip, it puts his hand in an optimal position to do a pointer finger eject and his support hand moves very little during the whole process, he is doing what is probably close to the absolute optimal reload in terms of least amount of movement to make it all happen.

Whats the other side? This is all very new news but the board should say something, otherwise one side is what the truth is. Is this seriously a 'someone doesnt like someone' personality issue? Ultimately another match, and I see as of this morning nathan is looking to make it a series, is a good thing, more opportunities to shoot, but the situation around the irc is very unfortunate.

It seems like this is inarguable, there is no magic where the gun moves less with irons, its 100% where your awareness is. The first time i did dot occlusion I could hardly believe how badly my vision was switching back and forth, you want to look at the dot, its work to look at a small spot and keep your attention on that element(for me). thats academic for me, every gun i shoot has a dot on it now anyways...

Ben has a new set of drills that he is calling awareness drills. One of them he put in his insta which really drives the point home about this phenome, i think some of the point being if your attention is being drawn into the dot creates the feeling that the movement is very dramatic.

Ultimately, this is probably my main problem and at this point I am devoting 100% of my training energy to simply being able to move the trigger as fast as possible regardless of shot difficulty. When there is enough sight confirmation, whatever it might be, if its a streak of red at 5 yds or a tiny wobble at 50 yds, the trigger goes as fast as possible in that moment, without it being a GO NOW feeling. some very advanced shooters just look at the target with iron sights, exactly like a dot. This only works if you have a repeatable index though that creates sight alignment simply by virtue that your index is exactly the same way every time. This is exactly like a red dot.. you need an index that works basically the same way every time. If your index is wrong, there is no dot....and likewise, with ironsights or a red dot, if your index is good, alignment "just happens". In much the same way that the red dot is not what you look at, but you know its there, iron sights are not what you look at, but you see them in relation to the target(specifically, a small spot on the target) that you are looking at. this is what I am experimenting with anyways. "Why aim? thats what my index is for" -TGO somewhere on this forum, if you look, you will find it.

Still not sold out 4 days later is a good sign. I think maybe the overseas stuff is helping too, a friend sent link to a site the was 69 per 1k this week.

This is a good sign, there were 91 cases yesterday when I posted, almost 24 hours later. Even a few months ago, those would have been gone within an hour...

I will admit, for a hot second i thought it was 450 for 1000...

the spring you mean? Seemingly and anecdotally at least, they only break when they fall on a empty cylinder, my working theory on why the C&S pins break is that spring provided is so light it does not provide enough dampening when its falling on nothing. carmony has posted here countless times that aftermarket pins are the problem, the factory pin is the best and if the gun won't go off with the factory pin but will with an aftermarket, there is something else wrong, its not the pin. he's probably right. I am not aware of anyone breaking a factory pin, you indicate you have though? that would be a first.

I think, counterintuitively maybe, dry firing a revolver is more abusive the firing pin than live ammo is. I gotta alot of work to do to get to mwp numbers, but experience is similar, the only difference being i have broken c&s pins, two of them. My apex comp pins(the pointy one they dont make anymore) nor any factory pin have ever broken. They will now of course, but so far so good. And if you break a glock dry firing it before the heat death of the universe, it was a lemon and not representative of them in general...

I have this very much. I also have the objective data that when I switch the grip, at least for a little while(like a few k rounds) overall my shooting improves. I am pretty sure that because when I switch my relative attention on whats happening in my hands gets better and consequently the shooting gets better.

Yeah, I play around with this just to make sure i have something in the box so it wont be my first ever at a match. I guess doing it on a timer a bunch of times will tell you the story. The context i thought of josh doing this in, it was two different stages at a7 a long time ago, and they were like, direct retreats, think running along a wall and it was a good 15 yards.

Absolutely. I do think there is a weak hand reload advantage on retreats, however slight. At several area matches i watched josh immediately get the gun empty as he started to retreat, then get the next moon in his hand while running then finish the load as he entered the next position. It definitely looks less awkward.

The only person i ever see just switch between reloads is cliff walsh, he can just go either way seemingly equal, but 99% of the time he does stronghand. Right to left is easy so long as you are able to maintain body awareness, for me this means where is my shoulder position relative to the berm/90/fault line... whichever ref is easiest to notice. Right to left retreating is definitely a bit of a trick, but its the case always regardless of division..if you feet are pointing up range and you are trying to do a gun manipulation at same time....this is pretty rare though, just have a practiced strategy for this scenario and do it. Depending on the stage i blend something like shuffle stepping backwards and doing the load and turn and run when i can to just getting to next position and doing the load when i get there.

This, and local ranges cant have local rules without a letter from drnoi(i thought?) There are a few ranges here in a7 that have this in place(interstate behind berm, housing development behind berm, etc...) I am not aware of an actual dq ever happening from a reload pointed over berm, they will dq if you send one over though of course.

Your gut is really close, its mostly going to depend on the particular gun.

This is josh demo'ing his weak hand speed loader load. He is/was easily the fastest at this(at least in competition). Mike may be faster or as fast, but nobody did it at matches with Josh's speed and consistency. I shot a lot of matches with josh and other gm's shooting moonclip guns and the running joke was always how much was josh winning by... Here is jerry and you have the advantage of seeing it in ultra high speed footage... Jay slater(fishbreath here) has videos on his Insta, he has a very very fast reload. If you are a lefty, if you look up matt griffins profile on this forum, you can see him do a 1.31 dry fire as a lefty.... And if you stalk mwp on facebook and look back far enough in his history you will find video of the unofficial but real fastest reload with an 8 shot and live ammo....

100% phycological for me and probably pointless**. What I am doing by this last session before getting on plane next day is using timer for a start signal and letting performance happens, whatever it might be, its not trying learn anything or breakthrough, its just greasing the groove, a purely subjective experience and being 100% second nature having the rig on and shooting the gun. It may happen that just letting the performance happen creates a new personal best which has happened for me at least once* but I am not looking for it, I am not pushing past any zone into discomfort. *I shot an 8 on near and far standards the day before I got on the plane and did a 20 at the match two days later which was a personal best on both for me. **because I have also, at many points over doing this for going on 15 years, where I had periods of absolutely not even touching the gun at all for months, then going the match and it was like I never put anything down and was in grind the whole time.

I would also add, at least my experience anyways with tg, and all the fast stuff really, the barrel length doesn't matter very much, or at least i havent had a short enough barrel to notice... My same load that makes 775-780 in the factory 6.5" barrel makes the exact same velocity in my fancy 4" hand made douglas barrels(thanks mike) that have dave lake styles holes in them halfway down the barrels...

You are talking about 160 bullet in a 38 short colt in a 357 cylinder? What velocity are you trying to get to? I only load for icore, so if get to vicinity of 125 pf its fine, in a 929/9mm you should only need about 2.8-9g to make 775, which btw is about the speed that a 160 is not getting wildly overspun(imo) when you push the 160's out into 830 range the groups open up considerably at 20 yards. In all my guns, titegroup goes up linear when you are in the safe zone, +15 fps per .1 I have in my auto's played around with 160's in the 132 pf range and it does take 3.2-3, and to be sure the primers are absolutely smashed and they eject with great vigor, the pressure is high. I doubt its dangerous, but everyone has different comfort zone..

expectations and all...i did hear another multi time champion say the pressure after you win the first one is much worse, and after you win a 2nd worse still...

Another post mentioned, and I would guess same, the pressure is to low. I only ever shot plated or hitek bullets though, and of those two, plated are decidedly slightly cleaner(less leading at the gap on the top strap mainly). When i was shooting 38spec and long colt, n320 definitely left the gun dirtier with partially burnt residue which was definitely from to low pressure, but enough titegroup to make same velocity was clean.

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Titegroup is outstanding imo, very clean, meters very consistently and chrono's the same everywhere I go. I find n320 to be a little dirty by comparison and 2x the cost.

As discussed, managing the fret is the skill