MemphisMechanic

Click the word “Quote” below the post you want to reply to, and start typing in the text box. Should be rather straightforward The RMR is extremely popular in defensive use because it’s incredibly durable compared to most other dots. But it’s not as popular in gaming circles.

No. Glocks will shoot around 3” or so with 147s at 25 yards. An M&P 1.0 is lucky if it can stay on paper at all. This is why Apex semi-drop-in barrels exist, and are so popular. Factory 1.0s have lousy accuracy. I hope they fixed that in the 2.0s but I don’t believe they really did much.

Also be aware that no one runs an RMR in competition because the window is too small and lacks clarity. Deltapoints and RTS2s are the order of the day. So if you run an RMR expect it to be slightly frustrating to acquire compared to something brighter, clearer, and with a larger field of view.

@Joe4d definitely what @eisenhow said. As the temps drop WST picks up speed. On a 90+ degree day I shot ambient temp ammo, then watched stuff I pulled out of a cooler gain about 3 power factor. I prefer reverse temp sensitive powders: It’s easy to chrono on hot days down here in TN, and no matter where I go and shoot a match I do not have to worry about losing PF and going sub-minor.

You’re missing his point. 18% using the traditional C-more. 45% using a horizontal mount. Were there a hundred weird Open guys running RTS2s and DPPs laying on their side? The slideride is the only optic that people mount sideways. Right?

Perception of superiority. (1) Price = Quality. Until now the CZ and Tanfo were upper tier in price. Therefore, obviously, they’re what you spluge on as a C class - trying to buy the skill to get into B. (2) Striker guns take drop-in parts and triggers without fitting. They hit primers hard on the first shot. Slide stops, sears, and hammers aren’t wearing out every 10k - 40k rounds. They just run. And when they stop, you drop parts in and know they’ll work without polishing and fitting. Think about what that means. People were willing to put up with all that nonsense, PLUS pay $500 over plastic, PLUS work to master the DA/SA transition... all just to gain the percieved advantage of a 40+ ounce frame. That’s one hell of an advantage, in the minds of competitive gun buyers.

Ask @motosapiens.

@Dazhi it is interesting that they priced it 40% higher than a Stock 2 or Shadow 2. For sure. I never thought a Stock 2 would be the budget choice in Production.

Glad the videos helped. If it has a long spring... can you use one out of a CZ?

Interesting. I love the way the Tanfo tracked, but I came from a $hitbox of an M&P. Soooo yeah. A lot of people dislike the snappy recoil of the Walthers. I love it. If my grip is doing it’s job, the gun just works for me. Then I carved 4oz out of the slide on my Carry Optics PPQ. Hooooly hell is that thing snappy. But flat.

@Slalom45 good move. I shot Glock 2 years, M&P for six, then spent 9 months or so with a Tanfoglio. I’m back on a polymer gun and just generally much happier. Even GMs like @wtturn have made the switch back to plastic. You don’t shoot any faster or straighter, and the guns need a lot more maintanence with everything just generally being more expensive. Sure they’re accurate and shoot really shoftly, but soft doesn’t matter than much. Grip and rip. This steel Walther might well be the best of both worlds. Soft, but with striker-gun trigger job simplicity and consistency.

Then you guys who pick one up for CO should be just fine.

Gun weighs 41.6 oz You lose a little bit of weight ditching the plate with an adjustable sight for the blank one that mounts a dot. Perhaps half an ounce? My Deltapoint Pro is one of the heavier dots, at 1.9oz. That should put you right at 43-43.5oz. Now, I just got my scale out for the following. These are exact weights, so hopefully the gun’s 41.6oz weight is listed with a magazine inserted! Factory 15rd mag: 3.00 oz 23rd mag (TTI pad, grams guts for P320:) 4.13oz

You likely won’t like it. The polymer Q5 and PPQ (frames are identical like G17 and G34) have a frame that is closer in height to a G19 than a 17/34 “fullsize” height frame. I am size L glove, and find it forces my hand to choke up high on the gun to gain sufficient space; this is a feature I love about the PPQ. Others with larger hands or fatter ones (I have long skinny fingers) have been less than complimentary of how my Walthers feel.

Striker spring is still stock. With a 3 pound trigger it’ll hammer medicore-seated CCIs just like a stock Glock does. Eats anything.

It does. It’s a big factor in “widely varying” OALs coming off of your progresive press. If you don’t beleive us, pick out 30 of the same headstamp and load them in sucession with mixed brass.

I hate range badgers.

Our range lost two scoring tablets to badgers in the past year alone. This is a real problem.

But... you also don’t have to dump $300 worth of CGW parts into the gun. If you want a 2.75-3.0lb walther trigger, you simply install two springs from sprinco. You don’t even go past a field stripping of the frame in order to do it.

Everyone else will have their phone on them so that they can get those YouTube clips shot, old timer . I already downloaded the PDF so I can browse through it without a cell signal. I Prefer a digital copy: It doesn’t get beaten up in my bag, nor add weight, and I can search it by keyword. When it cannot find a tower, your phone bumps to full power and starts screaming nonstop in search of a signal. That kills the battery. If you have no signal or an unusably weak one, turn on airplane mode (kills the transmitter) and your battery will last all day.

This. Keeping it 50+ degrees instead of 45ish or below? Very helpful.

I think when people say that they primarily mean snappy. I don’t notice increased muzzle rise over anything else; at least... if they’re both gripped hard I get the same splits and hits during a bill drill as I did with a 45oz Tanfoglio Stock III. The felt recoil is a bit higher than even another polymer gun like a Glock, sure. But that doesn’t affect stage scores if the sights are back just as quickly.

@Silverscooby27 the PRO comes with magwell and +2 basepads. Source:

I’ve yet to acrually see a mag gage at a major. But I still want to check mine.

Corrext. The ultra-slim follower and spring that Grams Engineering sells for the Sig P320. Shave the tab off the follower that engages the slide stop (it’s shaped completely wrong) and it works wonderfully in a walther mag. Holds 23 that way, and is *easily* reloadable at 22. (I haven’t checked mine, but I’ve heard reports that TTI baspads might be a hair too tall ot fit the gauge on some PPQ mags. If a friend has a gauge? Check em.)