mscott Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I moved the 6 moa Razor red dot to a new Matchmaster I just acquired. I have a sideways C-More on my other gun and don't miss the larger lens at all. I'm guessing I've only ran 6-800 rounds through it, so not any long term opinions yet. Have not shot a match with it yet either, but will this weekend. So far I'm a bit pessimistic that it may not last. I really like the sight, but it started turning itself off while shooting major loads. No problem with minor ammo, though. I put a piece of wide rubber band under the battery terminal and seems to have solved that problem. Now the sight automatically gets brighter while shooting major ammo, which is not a problem on sunny days, but it was a bit overcast this afternoon and max brightness was way too much. No problem with minor ammo on that issue either. I know Vortex will take care of any problems with the sight failing, but I wonder if the Matchmaster isn't just too much for the sight. Thinking I might have to stick to the C-More or try a Deltapoint Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I have had a Cmore RTS2 on my Freedom Gunworks 9 major gun for the last year and have had very good luck with the sight. So far no problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I second the RTS2 recommendation. After some early issues mine has been running reliably, and I do like it now more than the Slideride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 I've seen enough posts of people having trouble with the RTS2 to kinda scare me away from them. Might have to try one of the 8 moa versions at some point, but am still thinking about the Leupold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcd19 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 what mount is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 what mount is that?It's a Cheely mount for a Trijicon I drilled and tapped for the Razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelGj Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Two of my friends used them and had the same problems as you, one of the moved away from Vortex and the other is still having issues with it.RTS2 also had the same problem don't know if they have fixed by now (Currently at Generation 3). But I would go for the DeltaPoint Pro, you can use the Arredondo mount or Matt Cheely has one also. (and Dominic Meier in Europe) If you surf around the web you can find it at $491. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Two of my friends used them and had the same problems as you, one of the moved away from Vortex and the other is still having issues with it.The guy I talked to at Vortex acted like he'd never heard of such a thing. Oh well, I'm going to send it in and hope for the best. Any more problems and a DP Pro will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 Vortex replaced the Razor red dot with a brand new one. Packing slip said they verified the problem and replaced with new sight. Now the new one is doing the same thing. I'm thinking they are just not built to handle an Open gun. Thinking I'll have a DP Pro soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Optics Planet has an "open box, dealer demo" for $509.99 I keep thinking that I should by one, then I come to my senses. My original Delta Point has been on my open gun for 5 years now. Seems I have to tweak ever so slightly every spring. Could be just my old eyes LOL. I replace the battery every spring and GTG Anyhow, if I needed one I would jump of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) I am around 10k rounds on my DeltaPoint pro in 3 months with zero issues. Edited May 16, 2016 by Shadyscott999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy69 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I am around 10k rounds on my DeltaPoint pro in 3 months with zero issues. Scott, I seen there was a group buy posted that you guys did for DeltaPoints and Oakleys. How are the other deltaPoints doing? Edited May 17, 2016 by bigboy69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I am around 10k rounds on my DeltaPoint pro in 3 months with zero issues. Scott, I seen there was a group buy posted that you guys did for DeltaPoints and Oakleys. How are the other deltaPoints doing? Still going strong. Lesgar and I have been running them for a couple months now with zero issues. I am around 10k rounds on my primary and probably 1500 or so through my backup. I have a thread going on the DPP here... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=230669&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy69 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I am around 10k rounds on my DeltaPoint pro in 3 months with zero issues. Scott, I seen there was a group buy posted that you guys did for DeltaPoints and Oakleys. How are the other deltaPoints doing? Still going strong. Lesgar and I have been running them for a couple months now with zero issues. I am around 10k rounds on my primary and probably 1500 or so through my backup. I have a thread going on the DPP here... http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=230669&hl= I've been following. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balwolley Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Vortex replaced the Razor red dot with a brand new one. Packing slip said they verified the problem and replaced with new sight. Now the new one is doing the same thing. I'm thinking they are just not built to handle an Open gun. Thinking I'll have a DP Pro soon. While I've not used their red dot, I've had to send a viper 4-16 back to them 4 times before they finally gave me a refund ... Told me " the problem you are having, is as likely as pouring water in my hand and making a diamond" Great customer service huh? Lol I won't buy another vortex anything..... Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Reviving an old thread, wondering if folks are still having issues with the Razor red dot a year later or if Vortex has fixed the issue(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 The last one Vortex replaced had the same problem, so it now resides on a GSG 1911 rimfire. I'll stick to the DP Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, mscott said: The last one Vortex replaced had the same problem, so it now resides on a GSG 1911 rimfire. I'll stick to the DP Pro. That stinks, especially for such an expensive dot! Any issues on the rimfire? I'm wondering how it would do on a PCC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, jkrispies said: That stinks, especially for such an expensive dot! Any issues on the rimfire? I'm wondering how it would do on a PCC... I'm sure it would be fine on a carbine. It was fine on my open gun with minor ammo, but the major ammo is too much for it. I have had no issues on the rimfire pistol or the one I have on an AR15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, mscott said: I'm sure it would be fine on a carbine. It was fine on my open gun with minor ammo, but the major ammo is too much for it. I have had no issues on the rimfire pistol or the one I have on an AR15. So it sounds like you appreciate it enough to have gotten a few more? Can you give me your impressions after a year's use? Dot brightness, glass clarity, etc., etc.? I'm using C-More RTS2's on my steel rimfires but as I'm looking into the future on a PCC build, I'm thinking about that being somewhat "dual purpose" as an HD gun as well as for competition so I'm researching dots that might be a bit more able to take hard knocks. I don't exactly know where the Razor falls in that realm, but I know that Vortex generally makes some pretty rugged scopes. Thanks for your input, J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 I have 2 of them. Only reason I bought the other one was it was a great deal in the classifieds on another forum. $230 with the 45 degree mount to use on 3 gun rifle. Besides those Razors I have an RTS2 and a DP Pro along with a few smaller dots like the Docter and Fastfire 3 and some Cmore slide ride/railway sights. Railway is my choice for my pcc guns. If I need to spend money on another red dot sight it will likely be another 2.5 min Delta Point Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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