blue edge Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Sunday morning I shot with a club, about one hour & 35 min north of home. I was in a squad of people from a differant club and I was in a pretty good squad untill ? the first stage, first shooter, The RO says load and make ready. Well here we find a snap cap! this is bad, this is a match DQ. what is worse it is jammed in the chamber. He then turns around gun still in hand and walks to the table where his bag is to get the the snap cap out!!!!! Sorry but I woud have sent him to DQ so fast his head would still be spining 2 weeks later Well he shot all day no DQ. Just glad I did not have to make the call but the RO was still wrong! Just venting, I know this is the what I like forum and I liked not being the one that made the WRONG CALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I am with you. Went to a match in '98, guy and his wife were shooting, their first match. Wife is up first, LAMR, turn with back to targets, asks to check her pistol, RO says OK. Fans the entire group including the RO. He did turn her around facing the berm but no DQ. I pleaded my case for the DQ. RO and MD said she was new and didn't know. Made me so mad, that they wouldn't do anything, I LEFT. No excuses, safety first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 AMEN Brother!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I don't consider the transparent/translucent snap caps "dummy cartridges." You can clearly (no pun intended) see they have no projectile, no propellant, nor a casing. But what the guy did after the snap cap was discovered certainly deserved a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 I think the snap cap thing is extreme too, but rules are rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 What rule???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherErik Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Im sure there is a rule that if you come to the line and LAMR and you allready are loaded there is a problem. I cant find my dang book so I cant quote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey QuicksDraw! Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 If it is a see thru or orange snap cap, eh, I'd let them slide on that one. But fanning the group or any one, with a firearm is a DQ. I'm allergic to bullets so; Safety first, last, and always.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 I think everone agrees, the first part was not good . and I am still looking to clear the air here with the rule # But the second part is a DQ HOME RUN!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 10.3.15 ...A loaded handgun is defined as a gun having a live round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted December 9, 2003 Author Share Posted December 9, 2003 Flexmoney`s rule is as close as it comes,but what came after was bad enough. Still glad I was not the RO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Wow...what seems like it should be an automatic DQ gets kinda tough when you go looking to state the rule and circumstances to issue the DQ. The shooter might have been under to "RO's supervision". Under the current USPSA rules...you'd have to see if "...on the firing line..." applies. (10.3.3) In the upcoming rules, I'm not sure there is a DQ here. Maybe the competitor broke the 180? (since the COF had started at "Load and Make Ready") Or, "sweeping". Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 For the record, I'm not the one who did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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