Needless Destruction

[Carlos]

And finally, consider these sad numbers (particularly the 1911s):

SMALL ARMS DESTROYED AS OF MARCH 15, 1994

M1911A1 Pistols--110,000

M14 Rifles Cal. 7.62 NATO--50,000

M1 Carbines--45,000

M1903A3 Drill Rifles--40,000

M1 Garands--30,000

M3.45 Cal. Submachine Guns--20,000

M1903-A3 Rifles--6,000

M12 (H&R 5200)

Cal. .22 Rifles--6,000

Total destroyed--307,000

Total cost--$1,079,873

Source: Defense Logistics Agency, Defense Distribution Region East

[Flatland Shooter]

Were these destroyed by the Feds?

They could have (should have) been turned over to the DCM. In the past, the DCM has sold 1911's, Garands, M-1 Carbines, 1903 rifles and numerous .22 rifles used by the military. For what reason were these destroyed and not recycled?

More government waste? Or someone with enough stroke in the government to keep these evil weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of the taxpayers that originally paid for them?

Bill

[Flatland Shooter]

M1911A1 Pistols--110,000 @ $700 each equals $77,000,000

M1 Carbines--45,000 @ $500 each equals $22,500,000

M1903A3 Drill Rifles--40,000 @ $300 each equals $12,000,000

M1 Garands--30,000 @ $500 each equals $$15,000,000

M1903-A3 Rifles--6,000 @ $400 each equals $2,400,000

M12 (H&R 5200)-- 5,200 @ $250 each equals $1,300,000

Cal. .22 Rifles--6,000 @ $150 each equals $900,000

Total equals $131,100,000

In the government's budget, small change. But with $131 million they could sure buy a lot of body armor and armored humvees for our folks in the mid-East.

Bill

edited to add: The above prices are my estimates. Probably way off on some. Close on others. Check the DCM website for current offerings and prices.

Edited November 17, 2007 by Flatland Shooter

[Catfish]

looks like a lot more than the weapons listed above.

For starters, isn't that an MG34 or 42 on top of the third heap?

[GentlemanJim]

Boy would I love to dig in THAT trash pile....I can WELD

Jim

[Carlos]

looks like a lot more than the weapons listed above.

For starters, isn't that an MG34 or 42 on top of the third heap?

As far as the stats at the end of the post, those are USA, as indicated. Bill - thanks for putting that in perspective. $131 million is a lot of $$$ in my book; and just WHY the heck would they cut up Cal. .22 Rifles ?!?!

As far as the photos, from what I read, the first two photos are from Greece; the last one is from Africa someplace; dunno if that MG42 is a German made gun, or a Yugo Zastava; I think the Spanish made a version too.

[Front Man]

looks like a lot more than the weapons listed above.

For starters, isn't that an MG34 or 42 on top of the third heap?

Noticed that right away Catfish.

This should be a crime.

FM

[ChrisStock]

Yes, looks like an MG42 on top of the pile .

Closely related experience... in 1991, after we returned from the sandbox, they took our 1911's away for good. They were cut in half on the spot...slide/frame and all. SICK. I know they were a little long in the tooth and were pretty loose, but they functioned perfectly. Wasteful...

[gunsablazin]

[carinab]

:angry2:

[BSeevers]

Man that is tragic

[Joe4d]

Yes, looks like an MG42 on top of the pile .

Closely related experience... in 1991, after we returned from the sandbox, they took our 1911's away for good. They were cut in half on the spot...slide/frame and all. SICK. I know they were a little long in the tooth and were pretty loose, but they functioned perfectly. Wasteful...

I was one of the guys with the torch ! Summer 91 Ft Stewert Ga. small world huh. OK every one grab a klenex, ready ? One of the 99 1911's I cut into slag was a Singer. I distinctly remember laughing that the Army musta really been scraping bottom of the barrel to get a sewing machine company to build pistols. Another weapon I had my hands on and easily coulda walked home with was a XM16 4 digit serial number no forward assist.

[Front Man]

I used to work for Singer back in the day.

That Singer 1911 would be nice to own now.

FM