TBF Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Anyone have any idea how much undersized they are ? Are they the same amount undersized for each caliber? Thanks in advance. Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 .001" under I believe so. For more info, try: Lee Precison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted April 18, 2003 Author Share Posted April 18, 2003 Lee site has no info I can find on U dies. but maybe I missed something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 I didn't see anything there on the U dies either, but thought I just might be blind. I'm 99% sure they're all .001" under. You might want to call Lee and ask. I got my info from EGW. http://www.egwguns.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 I looked & its not on the site. I had to phone in the order but they have them in stock for many cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 Maybe one of our posters would be so kind as to do a quick measurement of sized brass for a very greatful reloader ??? Please, pretty please... Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Are you talking about small base dies? Or are they more undersized than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 Lee U dies, also distributed in modified form by EGW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 My .40 "U" die just broke! The carbide insert shattered around the lower lip. I got it from EGW less than 1 year ago. Knowing how brittle Carbide (tungsten) is, I think I'll have to get 2. One as back-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I understand that the Lee U die and the EGW die are different. EGW uses the Lee U die as a base for their modified die, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBF Posted November 23, 2003 Author Share Posted November 23, 2003 That is what I have heard, I think they mill the Lee die somewhat shorter to allow more depth of resizing. I still wanna know, how U are they??????? Travis F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Travis- I bought a new set of dies for .40 for my press when I changed calibers. then I heard that EGW sells an undersized die that helps cure the guppy bellied brass problem. So I ordered that from EGW. When I got it in the mail, it was just a Lee .40 Die with a "U" stamped on it. Next, calls to both Lee and EGW. Both companies gave the same information. The undersized die is made by Lee and is .001" smaller than a standard resizing die. It is also designed to resize further down the case than a standard die. I own a standard die and an undersized die, if I have time, I'll swap the dies and resize some brass in both. The dies are available in 9x19, .38 Super, & .40 S&W, according to EGW's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 And while not on the EGW site, they also sold me a Lee U die in .45ACP. You can also call Lee direct; I could not find them on the Lee website but a phone call & CC number resulted in U dies in under a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Is the Lee 'U' die the same as the Factory Crimp or ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Berkim, no, seperate die for station 1, decap & resize. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 This is to de-Glockify brass right? Instead of running the Lee Factory Crimp at the last station, it runs first? That sounds good. I saw that Carlos couldn't find them on Lee's site - does anyone have a link that shows them? (and the specs?) Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Reloading Glock Brass, a FAQ by EricW, includes a link to the Lee U die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Travis- Last night I swaped my "U" die out and put in the standard Lee die to see what it does differently. The "U" die positively resizes more of the case than the standard die. Approximatly 1/8 of an inch more of the case length is contacted when resizing. I would guess that working each case harder with the "U" die would shorten the life of the brass. I may just put my standard die on the belt sander untill it resizes the same amount as the "U" and see how that works. If I get time to buy a micrometer, I will measure the two cases. I used a dial caliper, and the "U" cases are definitly smaller than that which has gon through the standard die. My caliper is a dial, and therfore not that accurate.... Sorry Travis. Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I understand that the Lee U die and the EGW die are different.EGW uses the Lee U die as a base for their modified die, right? I just wanted to bring Flex's question back up... And ask if anyone's ever tried both, and prefered one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 My understanding is that they both resize to the same diameter, but the EGW die will size more length (further down the case, toward the web)??? Anybody know for 100% sure? (...and have measurable results?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 As noted earlier, the "U" die not only resizes further down the case by 1/8", but it also resizes .001" smaller. I do not currently own a micrometer, but when checked with a dial caliper, the "U" brass is smaller than that which is resized using a standard Lee die. When using the Lee standard die, the press cycles more easily. Also, when using the "U" die, the bullet seater seems to have a harder time getting the bullet into the case straight. I usuall get a small lump in the case that you can see from the outside where the bullet ends inside the case. I also seem to be getting more crimp when using the standard Lee die. I am going to crono the loads with the standard die this week to check crimp and ignition with the standard die. I have reloaded 10,000 rounds or so with the "U" die and now I am going to change to the standard die and check the results. Cases reloaded with the standard dies dropp into my Dillion case gage just as well as the ones from the "U" dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Flexmoney, I am sorry that I do not have measurable results to provide to you. If I get a micrometer I will send you the results without delay. If you are unhappy with my curent results, then I will stop posting them. Respectfully, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 40AET - are you using the EGW 'U' die or the Lee 'U' die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 BerKim- I bought the EGW "U" die. When I was looking for the die, I called Lee and EGW. Both of there customer service techs told me the same thing. The EGW die is manufactured by Lee and sold by both companies. Lee does not seem to be pushing the die, I.E, there is no information on their website about the die. You can buy it from either company, it is just easier to get it from EGW. Both companies agreed that the die is manufactured .001" smaller in diameter than a standard .40 S&W die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Thanks - I thought they were somehow different... that EGW actually shortened the die to make it size further down the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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