dfwmiket Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I have an M&P with the interchangeable backstraps, and wanted to know if any specific ruling has come down yet or which one will apply as far as modding the insert. Can one of the aftermarket 'snakeskin' models, or 'stippled' models be used and be production legal? My gut instinct tells me probably not, but I haven't seen any grip tape options come out yet, so figured I'd ask. I'm considering going back to shoot Production for a while, and this is most likely the gun I'll use. Thanks in advance for any and all thoughts. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I have an M&P with the interchangeable backstraps, and wanted to know if any specific ruling has come down yet or which one will apply as far as modding the insert. Am I to understand that there is even a question that any of the three would be legal for use w/o being considered as a "modification" to the handgun? These are clearly OEM supplied parts, included in the original packaging of the firearm from Smith & Wesson. Is there a similar ruling on the H&K P2000 handguns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 (edited) the quesiton isn't about swampping out small, medium, or large, but actuallly altering the insert. like this http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/misc/SharkRear.jpg ETA under cutrrent rules.. no. It's an external modification. For me, I did a decroative and functional a-grip install. I'll try to take pics and post later. under the proposed 2008 rules. Who the heck knows. The production wording currently sucks and is not going to be what we see in the end. But no idea what new wording will look like. Edited May 8, 2007 by raz-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Yepper.........those are the ones I was thinking about. I figured it would be external mod, but it never hurt to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRodriguez Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 at the end of last year, I had hurculined the interior of my jeep wrangler and had about a quart left over when I was done. its the one with the little rubber balls already added to the product. I applied it to my backstraps and it works very well. A lot better that grip tape, since it molds over the rounded surfaces. If anyone questions it, it will peel right off and will look factory new. since the surface of the strap is not altered when it is applied. you should be able to purchase the individual quarts size cans at any automotive store. Make sure to buy a small can of zylene, since it is about the only thing that will get any stuff that you get on your hands. that or you will have to let if wear off in several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Here's my agrip job form the generic square sheet of agrip you can buy. Now off to vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 John Amidon told me that backstrap removal or any mod to one would be illegal for production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 Good deal. I'll just go with what I've got. I have some mags on the way (thanks!) and a holster.......so after Area 4, I think it's back to Production for a while for me. -Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 This is where the rules seem kind of confusing. Modifications to the grip is illegal. Okay that's fine. Aftermarket grips which match the profile of OFM standard for the approved handgun... is permitted. So wouldn't a Burwell insert be a aftermarket grip? It does match the same profile. It just has a different texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan W Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Good deal. I'll just go with what I've got. I have some mags on the way (thanks!) and a holster.......so after Area 4, I think it's back to Production for a while for me. -Mike Good to hear you'll be back playing production Mike - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwmiket Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 Good deal. I'll just go with what I've got. I have some mags on the way (thanks!) and a holster.......so after Area 4, I think it's back to Production for a while for me. -Mike Good to hear you'll be back playing production Mike - Let's see if a year's worth of shooting Limited did me any good. LOL :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 This is where the rules seem kind of confusing.Modifications to the grip is illegal. Okay that's fine. Aftermarket grips which match the profile of OFM standard for the approved handgun... is permitted. So wouldn't a Burwell insert be a aftermarket grip? It does match the same profile. It just has a different texture. It might be time to ask Amidon the question again ----- but the wording will need to be very specific, and make that analogy: That grip inserts are the modern equivalent (on a polymer gun) to grip panels on a metal frame gun..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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