Flexmoney Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 I have noticed that many revolver shooters can't count. (BILL, that doesn't include you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Would that be beyond six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 Nope...not even to six. Not even three sets of two. Of course...Beretta shooters scan't count to ten either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 The problem is you only have 5 fingers on a hand. When you count to 5 then switch hands you get confused. Hi-Cap shooters have to use their toes also. Bill Nesbitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 High cap guys don't have to count, we just say eeehhh that looks like a good place to reload, i'll do it there! What Flex is talking about i'm sure are stages that a man with a wheel gun doesnt' think on. take the classifier "fish house encounter" i talked to the RO at the end of the day, apparently BILL and myself were the only 2 who did that stage with only 1 reload, everyone else reloaded between the positions, instead of shooting the left side, 2 rounds through center port, reload, everything on the right side, they did left side, reload, center port, reload, run dry reload. they left 2 very precious rounds on the ground. it was a 12 round course, and 6 + 6 = 12 .. just don't miss those poppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 I think it's almost always beneficial if you reload on the move instead of doing a static reload, even if it means you will have to do one extra. You have to move anyhow, so learn to do your reloads while moving top speed. On the other hand, Flex is right in that revo shooters can't count. I don't know any revo shooters that never went BANG BANG click....Damn!! reload BANG to finish the stage. But that has nothing to do with tactics. They just can't count:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 thats not always so with a revolver shooter, this was one of those stages. the only movement was about 1 step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Would counting your shots as you shoot them be "concentration?" It would seem that if a shooter is concentrating on the number of shots fired they might not make good hits, conversely, if maintaining a focus on the hits you might forget to think about the number of shots fired.....quite a dilema. Heck, I don't know. I still hear bang, bang, CLICK now and then! (Edited by redmist10 at 9:29 am on Oct. 30, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Redmist, i think we were miss-interpreted. you need to come to some USPSA matches with us some time ;-) we "count our rounds" in the walk through. and plan our reloads. its funny after what you said. i though...bang "0ne" bang "two" bang "three" bang "oh .. one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Smoney, yeah, 1 step is too short for an extra reload. Surprises me as well that most revo guys don't trust their own shooting skills and reload to finish a stage sometimes if they don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 "We" revo shooters count beforehand in IDPA also but what you do is not always what you plan. Of course, if you don't figure it out before.....bang, bang, CLICK! Most of the troubles come when we try to shoot like an auto (spray and pray) and forget you cannot make up shots. I won't get into a commentary on USPSA vs. IDPA but I will pass for now. When I run out of IDPA matches I might consider it. I'm afraid I would learn too many bad habits trying to switch back and forth being a relatively new shooter. If you watch closely, you'll see me tap my foot as I shoot so I can keep count of the shots, LOL. Now, if I could only figure out a way to make an extended Moon-clip, I'll be rich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
down0 Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 I think Revo shooters are great. Someone has to keep these sort of historical shooting skills alive. I plan to start the "Black Powder IDPA" soon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 down0, I have already started black powder IDPA. The rule in IDPA says you can't carry 2 guns. They don't say anything about more. I do reshoots with black powder cartridge & cap & ball revolvers. I carry 3 or 4 depending on the stage. It is fun. Bill Nesbitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Bill when you run out of ammo do you just leave your pistol where it ran dry and get it after the stage is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 1, 2002 Author Share Posted November 1, 2002 I shot a local match a few weeks ago where they let a guy shoot with his cowboy guns... He holstered up four or five of them...pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 tightloop, you couldn't do that, cause then you eventually will carry 2 guns at a certain time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 I believe they call that reload style the "New York Reload." You shoot until you run dry then toss it to the side and grab another. Maybe the "Hollywood Reload." Sort of like Dan Akroyd in "Gross Point Blank" when he runs two PC Smiths dry then tosses them like they are made in the China. <Cringe> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 I just reholster the guns when they go empty. I tried shooting 2 guns at the same time once. Each time I shot I would be firing 2 shots at different targets. Hey, Kevin Costner did it in Silverado. I could hit pretty good with the right gun but not too good with the left one. It's pretty neat with all the gunsmoke, SO's choking, targets on fire. Bill Nesbitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Man, I'll have to run out and buy a charcoal burner; there are some SO's I'd like to choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 shooting multiple handguns is a cool skill, one which i am sure has deminished since i have not practiced, but i used to do it quite frequently with DA wheel guns (cocking each time of course) if you alternate them you can get pretty cool hits on a single target, but if you try to use both guns on the same target, you get a hit on each side. now 2 guns on differeing targets i can hit pretty well. bill if you shoot one, shoot the other while cocking the oppisete gun i think you could do pretty well ... .. now i need to try this. hehehehe. Dual beretta's... maybe dual 45's :-) better yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan550 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Sometimes, counting can get you in trouble! I went to Bianchi in '98 for the first time, and stupidly, had been to a CAS match the weekend before we left. Got on barricades, shot 5 and quit! By the time I realized I had another round to go, the target went "FLIP"................... gone! It is fun to watch the flinch that develops during a match when new shooters forget to count though! :-) Alan~^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 In my area part of the deal is the revolver shooters are inexperienced. At the ICORE matches only 4 or 5 are regular shooters and plan the stage, the rest are fairly new and still trying to figure it out. It seems many USPSA revo shooters are not as serious and don't practice much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 TMC, yeah that's what I noticed as well. Those reov guys just don't practice. To me, the best part about revo shooting is that the dry firing is such good practice. With an SA auto it's more difficult to practice on the trigger from shot to shot. Shooting revolver to me is just so very challenging, that I couldn't go back to just auto's anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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