Q's About Steel Challenge

[HoMiE]

Don't get so hung up on the USPSA rules for movement, basically keep finger out of trigger, muzzle downrange, safe-direction.

And as far as your feet are concerned, consider it a stage procedure, so you can state wheter one of both feet must be in the box while shooting.

[Jadepanther]

I don't think the movement rules on OL matter enough to worry about. It's not like you're going to hit 3 plates at 25-35 yards on the move anyway. Where they really mattered was on Flying M, which isn't shot in the "official" SC anymore. It would be nice to be consistent though.

There is still Outer Limits, that has move from one box to another. Doing hundreds of drills shooting while leaving the box for USPSA then at steel challenge you get a procederal for it, kinda sucks. Although I can't find any current documentation for steel challenge currently that states this. The only current steel challenge rules available anywhere seems to be on the US Steel Nationals website and they do not specify there movemnet rules are any different than USPSA so, when one migh consider actually paying the several hundreds of dollars to compete in this match and wants to practice alot for it, you really need to know if your practicing it the right or wrong way before you get to the match. I'm considering taking the $$$ plung to compete in the US steel nationals this year since its on my side of the country, its still a big $$ cost to compete. I would be competing in USPSA production divsion. I guess I should direct my question directly with the people that is going to be running the match. Kalifornia it to far away and $$ for me.

[TRNinTX]

What Shred is saying is if you can hit the #2 gong at 35 yds leaving the box and #4 12" plate at 20 yds while entering the box you will most likely set a new record and the 1/2 step isn't going to matter.

[ong45]

What Shred is saying is if you can hit the #2 gong at 35 yds leaving the box and #4 12" plate at 20 yds while entering the box you will most likely set a new record and the 1/2 step isn't going to matter.

+1... Trying to shoot OL on the move is a sure way to end up with a 10 second run , so i say let em try it

[Ron Ankeny]

Just go to www.steelchallenge.com amd click on the link to the rules.

[TRNinTX]

Here is a video that shows the movement in Outer Limits.

2007 Steel Challenge

Edited January 26, 2008 by TRNinTX

[Flexmoney]

Well, as Roy mentioned, it does matter on other stages (Flyin M).

Then again...it really doesn't matter. Our local USPSA/IPSC shooters all seemed to adapt just fine to the SC way of doing it.

Then again...it really would make sense to do it all the same way.

[TRNinTX]

Kyle,

This is from the 2000 Steel Challenge Rules under Movement

Seems to be pretty clear cut.

Edited January 26, 2008 by TRNinTX

[Jadepanther]

What Shred is saying is if you can hit the #2 gong at 35 yds leaving the box and #4 12" plate at 20 yds while entering the box you will most likely set a new record and the 1/2 step isn't going to matter.

+1... Trying to shoot OL on the move is a sure way to end up with a 10 second run , so i say let em try it

I did it all 5 runs at the last local steel match I shot. I was just putting my 2nd foot down about the time I hit the stop plate. missed #3 once, got it on the way back to the stop plate that was my throw away run.

I shoot it 1,2,3,4,S as per BE's wisdom

Edited January 27, 2008 by Jadepanther

[Jadepanther]

Just go to www.steelchallenge.com amd click on the link to the rules.

I see the steelchallenge website has been vastly overhauled and improved since this thread was started, I'm guessing soon after USPSA bought it.

Excellent job, and thank you to all that worked on that.

Clarificiation on this is now clearly listed under a rules link on the newly overhauld Steel Challenge website.

www.steelchallenge.com

I'm glad to to the major improvement to the website so soon.

I do not think that the movement rule (leaving the box) should by any different than USPSA, its says for ease of scoring, how is steel challenge any harder to score when it comes to movement than USPSA? I'm a level 1 RO and run shooters at both local uspsa, and steel matches, I'm not seeing any reason for the that one specific difference on movement rules when the leaving the box between the two sports.

http://steelchallenge.com/scsa-rules/

MOVEMENT

USPSA rules will apply for shots fired while moving into the second shooting box in

Outer Limits. If the contestant fires and leaves Box A and then realizes they missed

and/or hit the targets out of sequence and returns to Box A and continues to shoot,

there will be no procedural penalty (Keep the muzzle down range while returning to Box

A). Any target(s) struck in the incorrect order [A vs. B] WILL be judged as a miss. If

any shots are fired after having begun to move forward out of the box, there WILL be a

procedural penalty. (For ease of judging, both feet must be touching down while firing

in Box A in the Weak Side Box in the Outer Limits.) Upon reaching Box B, the

contestant may begin to fire when one foot is in the box and the trailing foot is either in

the box or in the air. Remember, if targets are engaged out of order without corrective

shots being taken, there will be a procedural penalty, plus a miss scored on each target

struck out of turn.

The shooter may not leave the initial box until AFTER the first two targets are engaged.

Upon entering the second box, the competitor may begin to engage the targets when

the trailing foot is off the runway. It is the shooter’s choice as to whether they should

have the trailing foot down or in the air before firing.

Edited January 27, 2008 by Jadepanther

[shred]

What Shred is saying is if you can hit the #2 gong at 35 yds leaving the box and #4 12" plate at 20 yds while entering the box you will most likely set a new record and the 1/2 step isn't going to matter.

+1... Trying to shoot OL on the move is a sure way to end up with a 10 second run , so i say let em try it

I did it all 5 runs at the last local steel match I shot. I was just putting my 2nd foot down about the time I hit the stop plate. missed #3 once, got it on the way back to the stop plate that was my throw away run.

I shoot it 1,2,3,4,S as per BE's wisdom

Wow, you shot 2 plates off one foot? Pretty cool (fwiw, that was much more common on Flying M) That part is legal too, it's only leaving with a foot out that gets ya.