kranzjdw Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 could someone out there please help im loading 124 rainer hollow points i have tried all the way from1.26 to 1.06 in lengh and nothing has helped. i have done a surch and found nothing on this topic also im getting this ring of jacketing in my chamber that will not let the next round seat, once i have removed the ring the round will seat with this problem i know it is not a bell problem and i have tried messing with the crimp with no help is this just the copper jacket on the rainer bullets i hope not thanks for any help on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterbenedetto Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I shoot 9mm open my load is vvn350 7.3g zero hollow piont 124g length is 1.155...if yours is 1.26 it is too short. try my length.. also change you mag spring, put a brazo tuned ejector and aftec extractor. your gun should work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 If you are getting a ring of copper then the OAL is not the problem, the obstruction in the chamber is the problem. You don't mention if this is a 9mm or .38 super. If 9mm maybe the barrel needs to be reamed a little to give more room to the bullet so it does not dig into the rifling before it is fired. You only need enough crimp to hold the bullet in place. Typically the amount of crimp is very small. If there is copper in the chamber and it is a plated bullet rather than jacketed then I would first look to the amount of crimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Is this by chance a new gun or new barrel? If so, that ring of jacket material in the chamber is probably coming from a burr in the barrel. It gets in there from the chambering reamer. Bend a short 90 degree end on a paper clip and drag it across the step in the chamber that the case mouth headspaces on. If you feel a burr, it need to come out of there. I do it with a fine cratex cone on a dremel. Or take it back to whoever chambered the barrel and have them finish the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Is this by chance a new gun or new barrel? If so, that ring of jacket material in thechamber is probably coming from a burr in the barrel. It gets in there from the chambering reamer. Bend a short 90 degree end on a paper clip and drag it across the step in the chamber that the case mouth headspaces on. If you feel a burr, it need to come out of there. I do it with a fine cratex cone on a dremel. Or take it back to whoever chambered the barrel and have them finish the job. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kranzjdw Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 thanks for the info but it is still not working the gun is about 1 year old and has worked fine untill last week i have not changed my load is there anything else that i may try thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 thanks for the info but it is still not working the gun is about 1 year old and has worked fine untill last week i have not changed my load is there anything else that i may try thanks Now I'm a bit confused. You have not changed your load? Are you saying that the gun ran fine, no feeding problems, no ring of jacket material in the chamber, for about a year. You didn't change ANYTHING and now it won't run? AND it is leaving a ring of jacket material in the chamber? Just EXACTLY what is the problem? Describe in as much detail as you can just where everything is at when it malfunctions. Pictures would be a plus. There are a bunch of really talented people on these forums, who have probably seen and fixed every known gun malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenTX Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 thanks for the info but it is still not working the gun is about 1 year old and has worked fine untill last week i have not changed my load is there anything else that i may try thanks Something has changed, worn out or broke. Do you get the same result with all your mags? Check completely disassemble the pistol and check all the parts. If it is an SV be sure to check that the breech face is not loose. Probably not OAL if it was running before. Do you have a shock buff? When did you last change the recoil spring and what is the spring weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Probably not OAL if it was running before. Do you have a shock buff? When did you last change the recoil spring and what is the spring weight? it could be the OAL if the seating die has backed out of the tool head. check all your dies. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 This same thing happened to me while shooting the brick (S&W Model 59) When I changed bullets it went away. I also had a lot of leading problem along with the "ring' problem. I was using jacketed bullets with exposed lead in the back. I thought I might of been using a 357 bullet in the 9mm. But who knows. Good luck rdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gans Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Excessive pressure will leave a ring from the base of the bullet. You can try some lighter loads to see if the problem goes away. If it does, you can go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 how many rounds through the gun, maybe your throat is starting to erode have you tried bullets that are Jacketed not PLATED like the raniers. Just looking at possibilities of solving the problem. also like gans said check signs of pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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