Owen Sparks Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Do any of you have a 6.8? I am seriously concidering one now that uppers are becoming more comon. Is the slight increase in recoil going to slow down doubles enough to make it impractical for three gun events? Would the extra weight of a 20" barrel help? OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 The answer is pretty much no. The 6.8 has not made itself felt in 3 gun. The drawbacks include reduced magazine capacity, greatly increased cost, failure to make major power factor, and increased recoil. This is not to say that you could not shoot a 6.8 and be competitive but there is really no reason to. You'll be at a disadvantage compared to the .223 and you'll spend a lot more time looking for your spent cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Until the rules change, you don't gain a thing on the .223 except a higher CDI factor. Stick with the .223 for competition. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paule Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Unfortunately, the 6.8 is a fish out of water when it comes to 3-gun. There are, to my knowledge, no safe loads that will make major. They are fun to shoot and have their place but this isn't it. (Wish it were, I spent a lot of time on them with the idea that it might be a viable major platform). Another point to note, the 6.8 really maxes out performance at about 16" of barrel. Longer gets you about 20-25 fps until 18", then nothing beyond that. Where they really shine is at around 12". They make a very potent entry gun (and a great deerslayer). Best mags are steel, and only hold 25-26 rounds while feeding reliably. If the power factor even goes down to 300 for major I have about 12k of once fired cases that I will put back in service. Until then I still like shooting them, and we sell them, just don't recommend to 3-gunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bberkley Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Unfortunately, the 6.8 is a fish out of water when it comes to 3-gun. There are, to my knowledge, no safe loads that will make major. They are fun to shoot and have their place but this isn't it. (Wish it were, I spent a lot of time on them with the idea that it might be a viable major platform). Another point to note, the 6.8 really maxes out performance at about 16" of barrel. Longer gets you about 20-25 fps until 18", then nothing beyond that. Where they really shine is at around 12". They make a very potent entry gun (and a great deerslayer). Best mags are steel, and only hold 25-26 rounds while feeding reliably. If the power factor even goes down to 300 for major I have about 12k of once fired cases that I will put back in service. Until then I still like shooting them, and we sell them, just don't recommend to 3-gunners. Paul and Wes do build one heck of an upper in 6.8. I love mine. I've used it for a 3-Gun match, and probably will again next time I shoot one. Its more accurate than my .223 upper (I really should have Paul build me a .223 upper as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I think it could make major but you need a 24 in barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyn Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 I think it could make major but you need a 24 in barrel. I want all my competitors to have 24 inch barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 kelly..... i think you just want your competitors to have 6.8's trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunther Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 This is a dumb Question but has anyone considered going the other way with the 6.8 Minor light loads, buy 2 25rd steel mags welded together for increased capicity. Like I said "dumb Ques:" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwb Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 6.8 is an awesome cartridge, If I had more $ I would have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I am going to buy one right after a .218 Bee and a .22 Savage High Power. I have to keep my needs prioritized... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) There is a cartridge out there that makes major without problems in almost any barrel length and I have never heard of anyone that has a mag capacity problem with it. Long live the 35 Rem. I think Kelly should shoot one.-------Larry Edited October 17, 2006 by lkytx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atek3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 6.5 grendel makes major out of a 20" barrel, but the recoil will still put you at a huge disadvantage to 223 shooters... atek3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiking Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 6.5 grendel makes major out of a 20" barrel, but the recoil will still put you at a huge disadvantage to 223 shooters...atek3 Have you tried shooting the Grendel with major PF? What comp did you use? About how much slower is it compared to a .223? How about compared to a .308? Did you time any splits? I have a Grendel upper coming my way pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atek3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Have you tried shooting the Grendel with major PF? What comp did you use? About how much slower is it compared to a .223? How about compared to a .308? Did you time any splits? I have a Grendel upper coming my way pretty soon. whoa there tiger, I'm just repeating second hand info from http://www.65grendel.com go there and ask the same questions, you'll get 10 replies asap. atek3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiking Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Okay. I was hoping that you had tried it yourself. It will be slower than the .223, no doubt. The question is how much? It might be fast enough to be an improvement over .223, especially here in Scandinavia where it is not uncommon to be shooting at paper targets at long range 300m+. Nice to have major PF then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmercury2 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Another advantage of the 223 is low cost ball type ammo practical for use on close range hoser type stages. reloading component availability is also abundant for 223 in contrast to 6.8. Reloading component costs are also less and of much variety is available for 223 than 6.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atek3 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Okay. I was hoping that you had tried it yourself. It will be slower than the .223, no doubt. The question is how much? It might be fast enough to be an improvement over .223, especially here in Scandinavia where it is not uncommon to be shooting at paper targets at long range 300m+. Nice to have major PF then. email henning walgren, I know he's cooking up major 6.5 specifically for 3gun. atek3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiking Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 email henning walgren, I know he's cooking up major 6.5 specifically for 3gun. Thanks. I have already mailed Henning. Will need to ask him some questions when he get home for christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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