99gski Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I had the pleasure of watching some of the stages today and caught Taran Butler and Dave Sevigny for a few. Check out Taran's super fast run and Dave's blazing clean 6.91 El Prez. Looks like a really fun match! All the best, Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 So what happened to the mag at the mag change. I could not see if it was dropped or retained or what...? The run did not look so much fast as smooth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knight Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Wow Dave's grip is frickin' amazing! The slide was going back but the gun remained right where it was suposed to! Taran is just blindingly fast to begin with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) Interim results are posted on the IDPA websight. What caught my attention is the total amount of PE (procedural error penalties) called so far. I counted 130 (total) for all those who have their scores posted (121 shooters posted). What gives? A tuff stage or two? Another observation is Mr. Langdon has 3 NS penalties and a PE and has yet to fire a shot. Edited September 22, 2006 by Crusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99gski Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Here's another video, this one of Steve Moneypenny. Great seeing you at the range, Steve! All the best, Julie So what happened to the mag at the mag change. I could not see if it was dropped or retained or what...? The run did not look so much fast as smooth.... Which mag change, Dave's or Taran's? Either case, both were legal slide-lock loads. Taran's run was the fastest time of the day for that stage. Dave's El Prez is probably one of the fastest IDPA El Prez's posted at Nationals if not the fastest (at least that was what rumor was on the bays.) I didn't get any video, but Bob Vogel was shooting VERY well too - a real nice person and definitely one to watch! All the best, Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) Here is the link to the interim results They are in an Adobe PDF. Dave Sevigny SSP MA - 185.24 Bob Vogel SSP MA - 191.47 Taran Butler ESP MA - 211.20 Steve Moneypenny ESP MA - 270.68 My buddies Gordon and Gil are shooting with Julie, Ernest and Scott today and tomorrow. Best of luck to all of you! Edited September 22, 2006 by vincent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Wow...Bob V. had a faster raw time than Dave S. (wow...again). And, then Dave was only 24 down for the 18 stage match (with 7 of those on Stage 1) (triple wow) Sounds like some great shooting going on ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I just noticed there is no Rob Leatham listed on the interim results. That seems odd. I also just noticed that Ted Murphy is listed as DQ under SSP EX. Ted is a long time Nationals SO/CSO so that is another strange one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbadaboom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I'm rooting for my good friend Jeff deGracia. JGo, If you see him tell him that Daniel said Good luck. He's got the Digilight booth set up. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaels Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 So what happened to the mag at the mag change. I could not see if it was dropped or retained or what...? The run did not look so much fast as smooth.... I think David Copperfield has nothing on this David...I've ro'd him a few times and I'm still looking for what he did with his mags and how he made the timer stop early.... quick is smooth, smooth is Dave... michaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZGunut Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi everyone, Another guy to watch out for is a young man shootng in ESP Expert, his name is Donnie Burton. He came and shot our AZ State IDPA championships this year and although his is not well known with his practice schedule and work ethic, I would expect him to probably beat Taran in ESP Master class. I suspect Dave and Ernest will be safe but I would guess he would end up in the high 190's as a overall score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I just noticed there is no Rob Leatham listed on the interim results. That seems odd.I also just noticed that Ted Murphy is listed as DQ under SSP EX. Ted is a long time Nationals SO/CSO so that is another strange one. Rob's at an NSSF event instead of the nats. Not strange at all, I had an accident and ended up dropping my gun. Revolver gods were pissed about the glock I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg308 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 You can thank such fast score posting to Forscore software from Beachbunnysoftware.com . We use it for our local and state match here in Idaho. It really is incredible software and it's benefits are enhanced when you have a large match to score. Nice job Jane! Aaron Here is the link to the interim results They are in an Adobe PDF.Dave Sevigny SSP MA - 185.24 Bob Vogel SSP MA - 191.47 Taran Butler ESP MA - 211.20 Steve Moneypenny ESP MA - 270.68 My buddies Gordon and Gil are shooting with Julie, Ernest and Scott today and tomorrow. Best of luck to all of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txaggie Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I noticed earlier that they had already given out 2 FTDR's, any ideas as to what for? Just curious what it would take to earn one at a National event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg308 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I also noticed a more than a couple FTDR's...makes one wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) Wow three FTDR's so far. At least the FTDR at Nationals club isn't so small anymore. I was getting lonely. Sniff. However these are interim results and things may change before the match is over. AZGunut, you weren't kidding about Donnie Burton. He is on pace with several good ESP MA shooters after today. Looks like SSP MA is going to be a good race as well. Edited September 23, 2006 by vincent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinkroe Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) Donnie Burton should be one to watch out for. I have seen him shoot a couple of major matches and that kid can flat shoot. Both matches I saw him shoot he had high overall (even though IDPA doesnt recognise it) and Dave was there for one of them in CDP. I think he is a senior in high school or a freshman in college. If you get the cance to watch him, take it. Edited September 23, 2006 by austinkroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Wow three FTDR's so far. At least the FTDR at Nationals club isn't so small anymore. I was getting lonely. Sniff. However these are interim results and things may change before the match is over. I think the issue here is guns being weighed. From my understanding, several have been over weight. Corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 How is an overweight gun an FTDR? I thought you could not compete in a match using illegal equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 How is an overweight gun an FTDR? I thought you could not compete in a match using illegal equipment. The "Failure to do right" penalty is intended for competitors who intentionally circumvent the rules in a manner that technically (splitting hairs) is OK but is obviously against the intent of the stage or a specific rule. Before anyone jumps up and says "there go the IDPA guys and their intent defense again", take a look at all of the references to intent in the USPSA forum regarding Production division. It appears OK to use intent in that sport. A pistol that weighs more than the limit for the division it is registered to compete in is deemd illegal equipment and the attempt to use the illegal equipment is deemed an FTDR. This situation is no different than attempting to use 190mm mags in USPSA Open division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 In USPSA if your equipment doesn't meet the qualities of a given division then you are moved into whatever division it would fit into. However if you use 190mm mags in USPSA then you shoot for no score since there is no division in which that equipment is legal. I've seen the over length big stick issue occur at a major match. The competitor's names were removed from all results and it was like they were never at the match. There is no "penalty" per say. If they had moved the folks from say SSP to ESP based on the weight of a gun then that would make sense. Applying an FTDR does not make sense to me (but in all fairness per IDPA rules the only person's opinion that matters is the Match Director). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Perhaps the reason they were given an FTDR and not DQ'ed from the match was due to them removing an item such as a magwell and making the weight in the division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTDR Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 why would anyone in their right mind show up with a gun that did not meet the criteria for their division? right there deserves a ftdr for stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Hmmm...40 revolver shooters (albeit split between two divisions). Not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 why would anyone in their right mind show up with a gun that did not meet the criteria for their division?right there deserves a ftdr for stupidity +10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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