TDean Posted August 30, 2001 Share Posted August 30, 2001 In a nutshell, we need somebody to describe the benefits of using a light recoil spring in competition guns, and why or why not the incorporation of this technique of keeping the muzzle down is wise for self defense guns. http://glocktalk.com/docs/gtubb/Forum3/HTML/015988.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted August 30, 2001 Share Posted August 30, 2001 I think I would rather beat my head against the wall than try to explain that on GlockTalk.If they don't believe Matt Burkett who will they believe? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 31, 2001 Share Posted August 31, 2001 Been there. I'm with Bill. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Sharp Posted August 31, 2001 Share Posted August 31, 2001 What would be the consensus of the board? Lighter spring? I'm thinking of experiementing with the spring weight in my Glock 22, I was thinking of trimming a coil or two off at a time until I get results I like. Is this an acceptable practice? It definitely is cheaper than buying several springs and swapping them around. Any advice would be appreciated. Also any input concerning spring weight in a Sig P-226? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted August 31, 2001 Share Posted August 31, 2001 My 22 handled better with a lighter spring. If I remember right it was one weight less than stock as sold by Wolff. I would buy the springs and not cut them. When you cut them you really don't know what you have and you can't go back.You won't know how it works for you until you try it. Bill Hearne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted September 1, 2001 Share Posted September 1, 2001 Been there. I bought a whole bunch of various springs from Wolff and spent half a day shooting pairs, switch springs, shoot pairs, and so on. Save yourself a hundred bucks and a lot of time. Just ask Matt or Brian or Pat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Schroeder Posted September 1, 2001 Share Posted September 1, 2001 If you just cut coils off of your spring, you have not really changed the spring weight. If you want to try different weights, buy different springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted September 1, 2001 Share Posted September 1, 2001 I find I get more out of changing the hammer spring, this to me softens the recoil more noticibly. I can change springs mid match, and have, as I did at the Canadian Nationals this year. I swapped springs as I was having reliability probs. But the switch did not affect my shooting even a bit. I swapped springs between stages and shot no different. However I act on what I see, so I observe what the sights are telling me the gun is doing on recoil and I adapt. Therefore I find the debate on springs (for me) a bit confusing and redundant. My rule of thumb is shoot the lightest spring that does not pound the frame excessively. This is not the same for all guns, a heavy comped, bull barrelled gun like a limcat needs ultra light springs eg a 7# or 8# but a lighter gun will need a bit more. I typically run a 9# to 10# in my open and 12# for limited...but I might try lighter in a .40. I think I would spend my time just shooting A drills and observing what the gun does. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 4, 2001 Share Posted September 4, 2001 Greg, Technically, that is not true. The only difference between a Wofle 13 and 14 lb spring is that the 14 lb has two more coils. However, on most all their other springs, the wire diameter of the spring increases by .001" per lb. I used to have them all memorized so I could tell which was which using my digital calipers. Today, my digital caliper's battery went dead, so I really had to improvise. Really though, the only way to really tell what is happening with EACH spring is to buy one a spring guage from Brownells. Their pricy, about 40 or 50 bucks, but for their serious experimenter, their worth it. A coil spring is not different than a torsion bar, it's just bent in the shape of a coil instead of a straight rod. When you cut the rod, or clip the spring, the spring actually gets stiffer. However, even this basic sping theory doesn't hold true in actual the application (in the gun). I know there is a big thread on this somewhere on this forum. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 10, 2001 Share Posted September 10, 2001 #Moderation Mode Moved here, just for Detlef Moved here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted September 26, 2001 Share Posted September 26, 2001 Just out of curiosity, and because I forgot to ask him at the Nationals, what did Matt have to say on the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted September 26, 2001 Share Posted September 26, 2001 Actually probably the best person to talk to about this is Sandy Strayer, we had a brief discussion about spring weight at the match..In short he said that all you really need is the lightest spring that still will chamber a loaded round. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 26, 2001 Share Posted September 26, 2001 That about sums it up. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walangkatapat Posted March 8, 2002 Share Posted March 8, 2002 Quote: from Bill H on 3:55 pm on Aug. 30, 2001 I think I would rather beat my head against the wall than try to explain that on GlockTalk.If they don't believe Matt Burkett who will they believe? Bill After reading those posts at GT I have to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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