Paul B Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Don't know why, but when I load Armscor supercomp new brass on my 650 about 1 in every 15 cases won't accept the primer. They seem to get caught on the sides like the primer hole is slightly off center or the edges of the primer pocket are too sharp. Has anyone else had this problem? Not as bad with used brass. Load is <11 gr of N105 with a Federal small pistol magnum primer. Usually the primer just mangles itself but also had 1 boom out of 600 cases loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 --> QUOTE(Paul B @ Mar 16 2006, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't know why, but when I load Armscor supercomp new brass on my 650 about 1 in every 15 cases won't accept the primer. They seem to get caught on the sides like the primer hole is slightly off center or the edges of the primer pocket are too sharp. Has anyone else had this problem? Not as bad with used brass. Load is <11 gr of N105 with a Federal small pistol magnum primer. Usually the primer just mangles itself but also had 1 boom out of 600 cases loaded. i bought a case a few years ago and noticed that too. not a problem, but wait till you try shooting them...that's another story (at least with mine). they all sit in a box now...want 'em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think the Armscor SuperComp has a slightly larger rim than the Starline SuperComp, perhaps if you changed the shell plate it might make a difference. Dillon should be able to advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I havent noticed any trouble with them, i load them with the 9mm shellplate instead of the 223 shellplate. This might make a difference I too use fed mag pistol primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thanks for the advice. Am currently using the .223 shell plate which is what Dillon advised. Maybe the the 9mm would hold them a little tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 --> QUOTE(Paul B @ Mar 16 2006, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the advice. Am currently using the .223 shell plate which is what Dillon advised. Maybe the the 9mm would hold them a little tighter. I may be confused/wrong but wouldn't the .223 shellplate hold the cases tighter than the 9 shellplate? Do you have any other brass to run through the machine? If you do and they go through just fine, it's the brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) PaulB, Our primer pockets are real tight. That helps when you reload them. They last longer. I don't have any trouble with them in my 1050. People with 650's seem to notice it more. If you want to send them back I will replace them. outerlimits, Please send them back to me and I will replace them. Ivan Edited March 17, 2006 by blackdragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Thanks for the offer, but the ones that won't go through the first time, will just get a slight chamfer to break the entry edge. This seems to clear up once they have been fired once and I, unlike some others, have had pretty good longevity with the brass even though it's a very healthy load and 115's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't have any trouble with them in my 1050. Your 1050 swages the primer pockets - none of the other presses do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 the 9mm plate is not as tight as the 223 shellplate. the tight shellplate does not allow the brass to move any side-to-side and if you have any variation between the primer and the primer pocket, the primer wont go in. thats why we drill a 13/16 hole for a 3/4 bolt...the tolerances on your press's shellplate, brass and the primer dont work out right. i have not had any trouble loading supercomp or the armscor stuff with the 9mm shellplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 And I load Armscor rimless 38 Super with a 223 plate with out any problems. But my machine is an older 550. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 XRe, Nope just the run fo the mill 1050! Ivan No Whinning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzygä Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I load Armscor rimless 38 Super with a 223 plate with out any problems.FM Me too and I have 1050. I have lot of troubles to reoad 9 mm plate with other super comp brasses but I haven't try to reload Armscor rimless brasses with 9mm plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 --><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Paul B @ Mar 16 2006, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Don't know why, but when I load Armscor supercomp new brass on my 650 about 1 in every 15 cases won't accept the primer. They seem to get caught on the sides like the primer hole is slightly off center or the edges of the primer pocket are too sharp. Has anyone else had this problem? Not as bad with used brass. Load is <11 gr of N105 with a Federal small pistol magnum primer. Usually the primer just mangles itself but also had 1 boom out of 600 cases loaded. i bought a case a few years ago and noticed that too. not a problem, but wait till you try shooting them...that's another story (at least with mine). they all sit in a box now...want 'em? quick update...ivan (blackdragon) was interested in what problems i'd had with the brass. i sent him 6-8 of the cases and within a week, i find a case of 2,500 38 super rimless cases on my porch! this guys cares! i'll load up a few hundred and head to the range and report later. assuming the problems are rectified, they have won back a customer, big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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