Oversized factory S&W cylinder latch?

[matteekay]

Has S&W ever offered a larger-than-normal cylinder latch on a gun from the factory?

[Bill Sahlberg]

No, only Ed Brown & Hogue

[Pseudonym]

S&W had one on the Performance Center 686 Plus that looked like the Hogue/TK custom cylinder latch.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/l-frame-11760

[matteekay]

58 minutes ago, Bill Sahlberg said:

No, only Ed Brown & Hogue

 

And SDM and TK Custom and Revo-Gear. Alas, I'm trying to game an IDPA rule, so it would have to be direct from Smith.

[Pseudonym]

6 hours ago, matteekay said:

 

And SDM and TK Custom and Revo-Gear. Alas, I'm trying to game an IDPA rule, so it would have to be direct from Smith.

I had called and tried to get the cylinder release from the model I linked above. You might get lucky and get someone who will sell it to you at smith. The young lady I spoke to was able to find the part number, but said it was a Performance Center item only and could not sell it. That or see if TK will sell you an unbranded one as they look identical.

[matteekay]

2 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

I had called and tried to get the cylinder release from the model I linked above. You might get lucky and get someone who will sell it to you at smith. The young lady I spoke to was able to find the part number, but said it was a Performance Center item only and could not sell it. That or see if TK will sell you an unbranded one as they look identical.

 

I'm willing to bet they're getting them from TK. That's a really good idea, but I can't use anything that extends past the frame. I was hoping there was a slightly bigger, stock profile latch.

 

 

[guns_and_labs]

The ideal one would be Lauck's, but that has never been factory. https://www.dlsports.com/dls-enhanced-cylinder-release-for-sw-revolvers.html

[billm67]

I have a couple of the SDM releases on my 686 and 627.  They have great checkering on them.  I wanted to buy a few more but I no longer see them on the SDM website.

[10mmdave]

On 8/3/2023 at 4:22 PM, Pseudonym said:

S&W had one on the Performance Center 686 Plus that looked like the Hogue/TK custom cylinder latch.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/l-frame-11760

Such a neat looking gun, why they don't offer it as a 6 shooter will anyone ever know ??

Edited August 24, 2023 by 10mmdave

[10mmdave]

here's something else from Power Custom, horrible pic, from their website.

https://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=1155&zenid=9s6bvh77mr4fnbdplhup36hsb3

 

Annnd I just remembered you said it had to be offered by S&W, sorry.

Edited August 24, 2023 by 10mmdave

[Pseudonym]

1 hour ago, 10mmdave said:

Such a neat looking gun, why they don't offer it as a 6 shooter will anyone ever know ??

You know Dave I just gave up on why and how these manufacturing decisions are made. S&W make the exact same gun as a 6 shot in the 4" version...... 
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/l-frame-11759
I went and read the IDPA rules after answering his question. In SSR, the part would have to offered on a factory gun. It does not specify dimensions however. So if someone wanted to argue(Game it) and could get the part from S&W on the above L frames it does meet the wording in the IDPA rulebook for SSR. If you showed up at a match to shoot SSR with the above gun a factory offering would they make you change the cylinder release to compete?
SSR-Cylinder latches may be changed to another factory offering from the firearm manufacturer
In enhanced service revolver it says aftermarket is allowed, but specifies dimensions.
ESR-Cylinder latches may be modified or replaced, but may not protrude past the frame in any direction and may not be thicker than 3 /8" as measured from the side plate of the frame. 
The release Hogue made for the GP100 would also be out for SSR and ESR it would seem.

[matteekay]

4 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

SSR-Cylinder latches may be changed to another factory offering from the firearm manufacturer
In enhanced service revolver it says aftermarket is allowed, but specifies dimensions.
ESR-Cylinder latches may be modified or replaced, but may not protrude past the frame in any direction and may not be thicker than 3 /8" as measured from the side plate of the frame. 
The release Hogue made for the GP100 would also be out for SSR and ESR it would seem.

 

You know what? If you read the rulebook objectively, you're 100% right. It becomes an either/or proposition.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have any faith in a match director actually doing that, to say nothing of a local SO.

[SSGGlock]

I’ve known a few folks buy that 686PC just for the release and put it in their 686 SSR. 

[10mmdave]

17 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

You know Dave I just gave up on why and how these manufacturing decisions are made. S&W make the exact same gun as a 6 shot in the 4" version...... 
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/l-frame-11759

I didn't see that, that makes no sense.