StefVanHauwe Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotofavoloso Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 It is good to practice this, but I have never seen or shot a stage where a week hand reload would be required in a Uspsa course of fire. It is my understanding that once the weak hand is required the strong hand cannot be employed, in any fashion. Am I wrong? I cannot conceive of such a requirement in a Uspsa COF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigG Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 58 minutes ago, Fotofavoloso said: I cannot conceive of such a requirement in a Uspsa COF. Because it can't be. Well it can but it can't be penalized. 10.2.8 If a course of fire stipulates shooting strong or weak hand only, a competitor will not be penalized for using the other hand (i.e. the other arm from the shoulder to the hand) to disengage an external safety, to reload or to correct a malfunction. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Fotofavoloso said: It is good to practice this, but I have never seen or shot a stage where a week hand reload would be required in a Uspsa course of fire. It is my understanding that once the weak hand is required the strong hand cannot be employed, in any fashion. Am I wrong? I cannot conceive of such a requirement in a Uspsa COF. A weak hand reload cannot be required but there are stages in which a reload is required between weak hand strings. You can either move the gun to the strong hand, reload, and move the gun back to the weak hand or (much more quickly) can stuff the magazine in with the strong hand while the gun never leaves the weak hand. This stage at last year's carry optics nationals required a reload on each of the two strings. String two required weak hand shooting from both boxes with a mandatory reload when moving from one box to the other. It is on that second string that reloading with the gun in the weak hand would save time You are indeed wrong assuming that the strong hand cannot be used during a weak hand only string of fire. It can be used to reload and clear malfunctions without penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotofavoloso Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Thank you for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFargo Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) And for us silly Classic shooters... a short course requiring 12 shots... you're gonna be reloading. I did it once this way in a weak-hand only stage at the Benelux Open Level III match... cut about 3 to 4 seconds off the time of the other classic shooters who switched hands to do the reload (take the gun back in the strong hand and do the reload) I messed up the rest of the match, of course...... I started practicing it after I saw a dry fire session from Eric Grauffel on Insta... Not because I thought it was necessary, but It just looks friggin' cool.... By the way, I believe I saw a match-breakdown on YouTube from Mason Lane where he also did this reload at a weak hand only stage. It really is much, much quicker, and not hard at all. Edited August 2, 2022 by WFargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, WFargo said: And for us silly Classic shooters... a short course requiring 12 shots... you're gonna be reloading. I did it once this way in a weak-hand only stage at the Benelux Open Level III match... cut about 3 to 4 seconds off the time of the other classic shooters who switched hands to do the reload (take the gun back in the strong hand and do the reload) I messed up the rest of the match, of course...... I started practicing it after I saw a dry fire session from Eric Grauffel on Insta... Not because I thought it was necessary, but It just looks friggin' cool.... By the way, I believe I saw a match-breakdown on YouTube from Mason Lane where he also did this reload at a weak hand only stage. It really is much, much quicker, and not hard at all. Correct, see timestamp 1:21 of this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFargo Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Yeah, exactly! That's the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 A magnet on the side of your 1st mag holder was handy for weak hand loading. That was the route I used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 A little faster, but 3 or 4 seconds faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 It was at least a second on the clock for me after some decent dry fire night before the match. We are scoring points per second so any time saved helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CClassForLife Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) The even more advanced strat is to learn to shoot with the other side and orient a mag pouch towards the opposite direction. This way, it's like doing a normal reload. Edited August 2, 2022 by CClassForLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said: It was at least a second on the clock for me after some decent dry fire night before the match. We are scoring points per second so any time saved helps. That's true. I was just questioning the 3 or 4 seconds supposedly saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, CClassForLife said: The even more advanced strat is to learn to shoot with the other side and orient a mag pouch towards the opposite direction. This way, it's like doing a normal reload. If there is a stage like this in the future and you attend that match, I will be deeply disappointed you don't win the stage. Edited August 2, 2022 by Boomstick303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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