dirtypool40 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I haven't heard back from the email I sent. Is this match full yet? Can it be shot in one day? Feel free to pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 (edited) Will the stages be posted online before the match, or just in the match booklet at arrival? Match booklet upon arrival. Sorry for the misinformation. The stages have not been pre-posted in the past. This year, they are in fact posting online prematch. Edited August 29, 2005 by reneet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cautery Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Check in/ Registration has always been at the range on Thurs evening. In years past, they've had a keg or 2 + muchies (chips, dips, veggies, etc.). If you miss Thurs evening, you can check in/ register on Fri morning. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, as one can see by looking at me, I seldom miss a chance at munchies... I got my reservation moved back to Thursday... Nice folks at the Ridge by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I haven't heard back from the email I sent.Is this match full yet? Can it be shot in one day? Feel free to pm me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I may be seeing Jimmy tomorrow at a local shoot. I'll ask him and let you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPoLo Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Are the BE'ers gonna get together anywhere? We've got two things going for us: It's Beth's (Mrs. Polo's) birthday weekend and the Austin Mafia will be in attendance. Be prepared for a huge throwdown at the Ridge certainly to surpass last year's party at the Plaza. It will be a "not to be missed" event. Be there or be sober. -Chet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralChang Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 B O N U S S T A G E @ D. T. R. "We Just found Out about a CRITICAL STAGE at the Texas State Limited ( I do the Match Books for the Limited) This is one I don't believe I have seen any where and we are setting it Up at the Double Tap Ranch Tomorrow at the match. So bring about 20 extra Rounds. This could be a make or break Stage at the Match and you DEFINITELY want to get in some practice on this stage. So Load Up for 7 seven stages and we will see you tomorrow Saturday at 10:00am. Robert Porter match Director Double Tap Ranch" I just got the above email, does anyone have the skinny on this mysterious stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 27, 2005 Author Share Posted August 27, 2005 I haven't heard back from the email I sent.Is this match full yet? Can it be shot in one day? Feel free to pm me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is plenty of room left in the match. My guess it that there's no chance of shooting it a different format. I'll post as soon as I hear back from Artie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLucky Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 HHHHHMMMMM Keg......................... [drool] See y'all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'd like to see the "critical" stage. Sounds like, from the post that General Chang made, that the guy laying out the match booklet is using his position to get some practice in for him and his "posse" on what he considers to be a "critical stage." I sure hope he or GenChang was joking, because that sounds like quite the shenanigan if true. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 him and his "posse" Alex <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If by "him and his "posse"" you mean 26 competitors (that shot today) from DFW, Oklahoma and North Texas, I guess thats a pretty big posse. The "bonus stage", as I found out when I showed up to shoot today, was a 75 yards standards stage, one string fixed time. We weren't told what the actual TX Lim stage its drawn from will actually be like, other than it must have some 75 yard shooting, evidently. I'll leave the rest of the comments for others to discuss. EDITED (to remove part of Wakal's qoute, as he edited his post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Interesting, to say the least. I have contacted Jim and Artie to ask them their take on this. And while the other item wasn't germane to the discussion thread (which is why I cut it off my post), I do have two USPSA clubs full of witnesses who saw the same thing. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseywales Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 So, now that we all know that the TSL will have a 75yd standards stage of some kind, and some have even shot a supposedly similarly configured stage, it seems that a pre-match "competitive advantage" has been acheived. Therefore, in fairness to all, I propose that we collectively lobby the MD of the TSL, to modify that stage to remove said "competitive advantage." Hmmm, lemme see here, how might we suggest that the MD address this... - add more targets - yeah, that changes it a little bit, but maybe something more... - rearrange target placements - ok, that worked at nationals, but how about... - adding penalty targets - aw c'mon, add a little excitement but the kicker change that we really need to convey to the MD... - divide the original distance to targets by factor of 10!!! Now, isn't that a sensible way to eliminate that "competitive advantage?" P.S. Call you friendly TSL MD director today!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzFlag Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Well, this was to be my first travel match. A good friend of mine has made the trip for a few years now and suggested I might go as well this year. I did read the original post and there was nothing left to guessing from what was said. I don't think I will be making the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 I just heard that the stages will all be posted online within a day or to anyway (as was planned all along evidently?), so its kind of a moot point. No unfair advantage as everyone will have access to the stages early, to study or whatever. I do agree its unfair to have matches where the stages AREN'T available in advance, yet the Match Director, Stage Designers, Setup Crew and R.O.s all shoot for Match score. I hate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 but the kicker change that we really need to convey to the MD...- divide the original distance to targets by factor of 10!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now thats a suggestion I can get behind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Hello All Again let me Clear up the rumor going around by some VERY UNINFORMED Folks and do some apologies. First after shooting only one target and one component of the stage (such as through a port,, under a wall or at a distance) I dramacitlly over stated the importances of this stage in my e-mail. My apologize for this at the time it seemed more critical until we shot the one target. I got confirmation of the stage late Friday afternoon and decide throw in a target to see if any one could hit at that yardage. There are five strings in the original stage for the TSL, we used one and it was not configured the same as any in the stage from the TSL the only similarity is the yardage. To advantage statement... The stages were decide back in march to be posted this year on the bulletworks web site and will be up FOR ALL TO SEE AND PRACTICE MONDAY so we did have a two day advantage. But if that Advantage were to hold true then I should have Won A class Last year and the Year before and the Year Before that and B class the Year before That and C Class ...... But never even placed in any of those classes and often got beat by lower class fellows. the advantage statement does not seem hold true. But If you want a Real Advantage that will cost you some time and work Artie and Jimmy Are a little behind in getting the match set up because of the massive amount of rain in breck this month. Artie asked me to ask ANYONE that is willing to come down on labor day weekend and give them a hand SETTING UP THE REAL STAGES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Seems pretty informed to me... ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Porter To: Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Bonus Stage this Saturday @D.T.R B O N U S S T A G E @ D. T. R. We Just found Out about a CRITICAL STAGE at the Texas State Limited ( I do the Match Books for the Limited) This is one I don't believe I have seen any where and we are setting it Up at the Double Tap Ranch Tomorrow at the match. So bring about 20 extra Rounds. This could be a make or break Stage at the Match and you DEFINITELY want to get in some practice on this stage. So Load Up for 7 seven stages and we will see you tomorrow Saturday at 10:00am. Robert Porter match Director Double Tap Ranch ------------------------- "...We Just found Out about a CRITICAL STAGE at the Texas State Limited ( I do the Match Books for the Limited) This is one I don't believe I have seen any where and we are setting it Up at the Double Tap Ranch Tomorrow at the match..." "Overstated"...yeah, that is a good line for this sort of behavior from Porter. Nothing new, though. And for the record, I second the "more targets 7.5 yards" idea Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carinab Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Well, this was to be my first travel match. A good friend of mine has made the trip for a few years now and suggested I might go as well this year. I did read the original post and there was nothing left to guessing from what was said. I don't think I will be making the trip. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awwww, don't bail out of the trip. It's a heck of a fun match. First, as Robert stated, the TSL stages will be up on the website tomorrow. Being "in the know" for one extra day this far ahead of the match can't truly be called an advantage. Second, I was at Robert's match last weekend. His email did overstate things as it implied we would be shooting the exact stage. The only thing we gleened was that there would some shooting at 75 yards. As SFinney stated, he didn't tell us what the exact TSL stage description was. This wasn't some covert plan to get local shooters ahead of everyone else. I think it was just to get some buzz going about the match and that it has. Nothing is more interesting than contraversy. The only issue I see is that there appears to be some animosity between Robert and Alex which is unfortunate. Both should refrain from venting hostilities here (insert finger wagging emoticon here). Play nice boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 LOL...I promise not to tell lies about prop designs, try to drastically alter match results after the match director has already posted the final results, or modify stages during the match (repeatedly) against the direct orders of the match director(s). And I also promise to work as a CRO for the Texas State Limited for the fourth year in a row, and to set up the prize table for same for the fourth year in a row But I won't promise not to check my 75-yard zero Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Well, this was to be my first travel match. A good friend of mine has made the trip for a few years now and suggested I might go as well this year. I did read the original post and there was nothing left to guessing from what was said. I don't think I will be making the trip. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awwww, don't bail out of the trip. It's a heck of a fun match. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Glad he Promises he won't be doing those things again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Looking forward to seeing the stages. Please post the link when you get them posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Just got off the phone with Artie. The match has openings It CANNOT be shot in ONE day Stages will be posted online within the next week Let's go support this long running match so that it may continue to grow and prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorch Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 STAGE DESIGNS ARE UP (11:30am monday 8-29) for the Texas State Limited 2005 at this link http://bulletworks.com/stg-index-tsl05.html or go to www.bulletworks.com These design may still change once we get them back from USPSA for approval. They would have been up FRIDAY if I had gotten them earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Awesome! Thanks Robert. Looks like fun. I'll have to see where I'm hitting at 75 yards. Never shot at a target that far away before. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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