ffgats Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Hello, Without the Decapping Pin Assebly of my sizing die, Can I still use the die to size just the body/ shoulder without the neck sizing? what happen was a case got stuck on the die and I cant remove the case, tried all the methods, and secondly might had damaged the Decapping assembly. Managed to acquire locally a Forester Sizing Die, although it chambers using dummy rounds, it doesnt fully seat with my JP ammo gauge. Brass that was sized by Dillon drops freely on the JP gauge. Not sure if I can send the Dillon Die for repair, then again its not practical for shipping since I'm in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) The Dillon size die has a built-in stuck case remover. Read the instructions that came with the die, and we also have a video on our website showing how to use it. If all else fails, contact us for a return authorization, then mail the die to us. We can remove the stuck case, inspect the die and correct any damage, and mail it back to you. You cannot use the size die to resize just the body and shoulder of the case. It will also size the neck. Edited July 17, 2017 by dillon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 Thanks, email on the way, btw, when you say I cant use to size the body and shoulder, even without the decapping pin assembly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 If you run the case into the die far enough to bump the shoulder it will size the neck. Without the decapping pin assembly/spindle it won't expand the neck back out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 All size dies resize the case neck, shoulder, and body. The depriming assembly enters the case neck before it has been resized. It pushes out the old primer on the downstroke of the handle, and the expander ball opens the inside of the resized neck to a uniform inside diameter on the upstroke, as it is pulled out of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The die has almost completely resized the neck before the shoulder section of the die ever contacts the case shoulder. All removing the decapping assembly does is make it so you can't decap or expand the neck back to the proper dimension for bullet seating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexusfire Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 9:13 AM, dillon said: All size dies resize the case neck, shoulder, and body. The depriming assembly enters the case neck before it has been resized. It pushes out the old primer on the downstroke of the handle, and the expander ball opens the inside of the resized neck to a uniform inside diameter on the upstroke, as it is pulled out of the case. Can you tell me to what inside diameter the expander ball expands to? I put my calipers on it and it read between .221 and .222. I am assuming it is trying to achieve. 002 to .003 neck tension? I am having issues with the cases shaving the copper jacket off of a 50gr VMAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The specs on the carbide ball are .222" diameter, +/- .001" . There is always a bit of case springback, so about ..03" case neck press fit. Are you chamfering the inside of the case neck? This is recommended when loading flat based bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Since we're talking about neck, my follow question is .252" neck OD that is less 001" of the Saami Spec (.253")of neck OD good to go or should I go for a crimp to .250"-251" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexusfire Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 hours ago, dillon said: The specs on the carbide ball are .222" diameter, +/- .001" . There is always a bit of case springback, so about ..03" case neck press fit. Are you chamfering the inside of the case neck? This is recommended when loading flat based bullets. They are boat tails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 ffgats, What is the inside diameter of the case neck? Unless the projectile you are loading has a cannelure, there is not much reason to crimp in 223 unless you are shooting full-auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 The ID is .222. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 .002" press fit should hold the bullet in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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