rugerp89ipsc Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Hey guys. I have 2 1911 9mm SS that I am having work done. I am currently making weight, but I would like to get ball cuts in a French Cut style into the to top of the slides to match my Dawson Precision Limited pistol. This would be one on each side on the round top of the slide. Obviously this is going to cut some weight. I have no idea if it's a significant amount, or how much weight defines a significant amount. Rules state: Authorized modifications - Milling of the slide to insert sights, add or remove serrations, such as cocking or flat topping, tri-topping the slide, lowering ejection ports, cuts that are minor and cosmetic in nature are permitted. Duplicating features that are on a factory, mass produced slide available to the general public is permitted. Cuts that are designed to specifically or significantly lighten the slide, such as holes, or slots, are ruled as competitive advantage and prohibited. Prohibited modifications and features - Slide lightening, cuts, ports, or any milling deemed to provide a competitive advantage. So, CRO/SO, would these cuts be deemed acceptable or to provide a competitive advantage? Anyone else running a 1911 with old styled French Cuts? I have included a pic of the style of cut I want that's currently on my Dawson gun and my SS 9mm I want to cut. Edited January 30, 2017 by rugerp89ipsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Front serrations are going to get cut also, but those are obviously legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent1k1 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Since they are decorative, it would probably pass. You did mention that they would save weight, so that's not good. I'd suggest to send it to Troy for a ruling. If he is able to provide the ruling, i'd print it out and keep it with you as you shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottieShootz Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Was thinking french cut as the thin line cut that runs the full length of the slide. That to me doesn't really help in cutting weight. The front ball cuts though, I too had them on my limited gun, definitely are there to cut weight. Sending to Troy is your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 yeah, any material removed, even the serrations, is obviously going to cut weight. I have no idea how much weight this would be. Cant be any more than tri topping. I'll email Troy. Am I describing it correctly? Are those considered French cuts or something else? I have no idea what they are made with, but it looks to be some sort of ball milling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I would call it a ball cut, not a French cut. The latter is typically a very thin line at the point where the flat side meets the round top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think the front cocking serrations will be ok and the ball endmill cuts are going to be called cosmetic.. That would put both as permitted.. I don't see where the ball cuts would be providing a competitive advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Ball cuts like that remove a lot less weight that tri-topping (which is allowed). Since they don't penetrate through the slide my guess if they will be fine. But for sure check with dnroi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 13 hours ago, ltdmstr said: I would call it a ball cut, not a French cut. The latter is typically a very thin line at the point where the flat side meets the round top. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Appreciate the info guys. That was my thought. The cuts are less than tri topping, aren't all the way through, but it will remove weight. Whether or not that provides a competitive advantage, I don't really think so. Besides, shooting minor at Nationals is mostly not competitive and Nationals is the only match I've been to where the pistol go much scrutiny other than box and weight at the chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climbhard Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Totally legal for SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 Sent an email to Troy. I do love some SS Minor and can't wait to have a custom gun built and finish this pistol and a Lawman I picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerp89ipsc Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 I heard back from Troy today. It's legal. He advised me that: As long as you don't make any cuts completely through the slide, the milling is legal. The only thing considered to be slide lightening cuts are holes in the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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