Wesquire Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) Anyone else have this issue? It broke on the taper step. Gen 3. Maybe the new design has fixed this. Edited September 11, 2016 by Wesquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I have a gen5... I ran it in a match yesterday and was unimpressed. I clipped the spring and still was getting light strikes. If you want it, PM me... I'm sticking with my original firing pin for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, ryridesmotox said: I have a gen5... I ran it in a match yesterday and was unimpressed. I clipped the spring and still was getting light strikes. If you want it, PM me... I'm sticking with my original firing pin for now. What I don't understand is why henning pins are intentionally lighter. It reduces the momentum and wont launch a pencil as high, but maybe speed > momentum for lighting primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) Didn't work for me. I was having light strikes on all stages in a match yesterday. I am going to experiment with clipping the spring a little more. I've already clipped It to 5 coils past the end of the pin, helped a little. If it doesn't work, I'll go back to the standard tanfo pin. It was working 100% with my current setup Edited September 11, 2016 by ryridesmotox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Wesquire said: What I don't understand is why henning pins are intentionally lighter. It reduces the momentum and wont launch a pencil as high, but maybe speed > momentum for lighting primers. [/quote] I agree. The Factory FP or xtreme have worked better for me. As I understand it, lighter FP has a shorter lock time, thus less chance of draging sights off the target. I have 100% with HG5....but ONLY with federal match primers. There is more margin using the heavier pin in my guns. YMMV. Edited September 12, 2016 by johnbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, johnbu said: Have you had the chance to compare the HG5 and xtreme directly? And I believe someone here measured all the firing pins, anyone know where that post is? Edited September 12, 2016 by Wesquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Back to back with a stock one, the gen5 was probably 80% reliable with a clipped spring while the original that came with the gun was 100%. I was using Fiocchi ammo so that might have had something to do with it, but I've never had an issue with them before. If the EGW is at least as good as the OEM FP, your fine. I have a suspicion it was mostly the primers in the Fiocchi were hard. I was running a 13lbs wolf hammer spring and a 12lbs patriot defense... Neither would pop the Fiocchi. I am going to swap back to the stock pin again and see if that is any better... Which I imagine it will be. The stock pin has lit off winchester, blazer, fiocchi, maxxtech, and federal factory ammo with the 13 lbs spring for me. Obviously Every gun is an individual, I have not polished the firing pin or firing pin bore in the slide yet. So that might be some of the cause as well, but at this point, I'm going back to what worked last to confirm my setup is reliable then I will tune the firing pin and spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, ryridesmotox said: Back to back with a stock one, the gen5 was probably 80% reliable with a clipped spring while the original that came with the gun was 100%. I was using Fiocchi ammo so that might have had something to do with it, but I've never had an issue with them before. If the EGW is at least as good as the OEM FP, your fine. I have a suspicion it was mostly the primers in the Fiocchi were hard. I was running a 13lbs wolf hammer spring and a 12lbs patriot defense... Neither would pop the Fiocchi. I am going to swap back to the stock pin again and see if that is any better... Which I imagine it will be. The stock pin has lit off winchester, blazer, fiocchi, maxxtech, and federal factory ammo with the 13 lbs spring for me. Obviously Every gun is an individual, I have not polished the firing pin or firing pin bore in the slide yet. So that might be some of the cause as well, but at this point, I'm going back to what worked last to confirm my setup is reliable then I will tune the firing pin and spring. Have you measured the pins? Ive seen some reports that the Xtreme pins arent even longer than the stock ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Wesquire said: Have you measured the pins? Ive seen some reports that the Xtreme pins arent even longer than the stock ones. I don't have an extreme pin. But the length of the Henning and the stock one are the same visually. Ill measure them tonight when I get home, but they will be really close. Maybe I got sent the wrong one or something? I don't know. But I will put up a pic of a caliper showing the sizes of mine if someone puts up their egw pin maybe we can compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, ARy said: It's becoming empirical that heavy and slow beats light and fast for primer ignition in this specific configuration. Sounds 100% correct. Even though I clipped springs mine didn't have enough inertia to pop the primer it apears. I should have swapped my pins out on Saturday... Oh well. There is always next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The stock pistols MIGHT be shipped with xtreme firing pin. Not sure but I do KNOW the separatly purchased Xtreme is identical weight and length as the one in lim pro and the last 3 stock2 I measured. the stock 2 is shipped with the Xtreme interrupor, verified via e-mail with Eric G, so it's possible. The Henning g5 is Noticeably longer. 11 hours ago, Wesquire said: Have you measured the pins? Ive seen some reports that the Xtreme pins arent even longer than the stock ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Kinda confirms my thoughts too John. My stock 2's factory pin look the same in length and appeared to be the same weight. Oh well, 'least I've got an identical backup now. No issues w/ ~200 cci primers, Xtreme pin, Xtreme "light" FP return spring, and 13lb PD hammer spring with mildly polished stock internals. Edited September 12, 2016 by SCTaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Alright, so why does basically everyone here use Henning pins if they aren't even as good as the stock pins? Maybe the gen 4/5 pins equalize the difference by being the longest pins yet...but that does make them more fragile. I can't imagine lock time as being even remotely on the list of priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryridesmotox Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 For me it was more experimentation to see what was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ARy said: Polishing everything will also help... like evvvvvvverything. [URL=http://s61.photobucket.com/user/anthony2210/media/20160912_100217_zpsvizr3oxa.jpg.html][IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/anthony2210/20160912_100217_zpsvizr3oxa.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s61.photobucket.com/user/anthony2210/media/20160422_122504_zps7pshb3xo.jpg.html][IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/anthony2210/20160422_122504_zps7pshb3xo.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s61.photobucket.com/user/anthony2210/media/20160912_101504_zpsa0glavib.jpg.html][IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h65/anthony2210/20160912_101504_zpsa0glavib.jpg[/IMG][/URL] edit: oh well, the links never work half the time on the new forum. Edited September 12, 2016 by Wesquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The gen 3 henning FP was (imho) BETTER than the EG pin. I stuck my only G3 forward and slammed a full mag home..click click click. put in EG pin, ordered 4 gen5 pins. Can't put them in as the EG works better (for me). And I really like Henning products! I even tried to fill the hole with tungsten to get the weight up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, johnbu said: The gen 3 henning FP was (imho) BETTER than the EG pin. I stuck my only G3 forward and slammed a full mag home..click click click. put in EG pin, ordered 4 gen5 pins. Can't put them in as the EG works better (for me). And I really like Henning products! I even tried to fill the hole with tungsten to get the weight up! I wonder why Henning hasn't made and extra weight extra length firing pin. That would allow the lightest trigger possible. I'm not chasing crazy light triggers, so I'm more concerned about durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesquire Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, ARy said: Well, we just released our firing pin spring. It's sprung 50% LESS than an E.G. light spring. It has a compression stop wound in, so no extra protrusion into the breach face. We'll see how it goes; I think we our spring and the heavier extreme or even stock pin, the problem will be solved. So the reduced power should slow the firing pin down less, right? Any downside to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fischeac Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thanks for getting the pics of your polishing job to work, ARy. That's nice work. I have alot more work to do on my parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 ARy, what's the detail on the polishing bit shown? Always looking to upgrade from the cude methods I use (typically q-tips!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMateo487 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 ARy, what's the detail on the polishing bit shown? Always looking to upgrade from the cude methods I use (typically q-tips!)+1 for this. What are you guys using to polish the channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah but what they're asking is... is that a .22 bore brush you're using in the drill? How are you polishing the internal holes and passages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMateo487 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Yeah but what they're asking is... is that a .22 bore brush you're using in the drill? How are you polishing the internal holes and passages?Yup. This is my exact question. A 22 bore brush is a perfect fit. But I have no idea what kind of hell it would unleash inside of there. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunez Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I used a .22 bore brush and it worked great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMateo487 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I used a .22 bore brush and it worked greatThe brush alone? Or with polish compound on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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