Shootnjunky Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 What are your thoughts on whether these are now collectible and need to be shot sparingly I have 2 and am considering letting the pretty one go. Let me here what you guys/gals have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 A German made X5 L1 might be worth keeping nice, be there's still a lot of them out there. I don't see them appreciating a whole lot. I'd either shoot it or sell it and invest in something I could enjoy shooting. But then I'm not big into collecting guns that won't get used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 They're still being manufactured right? Why would we think they would be becoming any more collectable than any other high end currently manufactured gun? No offense, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler2you Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 My understanding is the German made X5 L1 ceased production in 2015. They still make the All Around, Classic, and Supermatch models. X5 production is also being moved from Germany to Exeter NH which has people concerned about quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootnjunky Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 They are no longer allowed to import them into the US. so the german made ones stopped being brought in late 2014 so only what is already stateside is the pool. There is talk of US Made versions coming out at some point, but it is unclear when or if they will be the same quality or product in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 What are your thoughts on whether these are now collectible and need to be shot sparingly I have 2 and am considering letting the pretty one go. Let me here what you guys/gals have to say If you want them to be collectible, you shouldnt really shoot them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudacher Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Not a collectible in my book. I have six of them and I plan on shooting them a ton! Here is a project that is in progress using my new X5E. And here I did a trial fit of the compensator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Might be some collectibility to the original P226 X-Five models. They no longer make these. The second generation X-Five version models dropped the P226 relationship to strictly the X-Five line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootnjunky Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 What are your thoughts on whether these are now collectible and need to be shot sparingly I have 2 and am considering letting the pretty one go. Let me here what you guys/gals have to say If you want them to be collectible, you shouldnt really shoot them at all. Agreed. I have a NIB Black and White I was considering selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudacher Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Might be some collectibility to the original P226 X-Five models. They no longer make these. The second generation X-Five version models dropped the P226 relationship to strictly the X-Five line. I would gladly trade my 5 P226 X5s for the new style X-Line. The reason for the redesign was to strengthen the slide to prevent slide cracking yet still remain light weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootnjunky Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Where do the master shop versions come in on this scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonm1 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I've been keeping my 220X6 unfired in the chance I get my FFL and can sell it for a good price. I did not get any bargain on it though and it is hard to imagine folks bidding it up a whole bunch. Sig squeezes you pretty good on their top guns already. I'm between jobs now and looking at thinning the herd to improve cash flow and ward off the risks of the next liberal gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Might be some collectibility to the original P226 X-Five models. They no longer make these. The second generation X-Five version models dropped the P226 relationship to strictly the X-Five line. I would gladly trade my 5 P226 X5s for the new style X-Line. The reason for the redesign was to strengthen the slide to prevent slide cracking yet still remain light weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Might be some collectibility to the original P226 X-Five models. They no longer make these. The second generation X-Five version models dropped the P226 relationship to strictly the X-Five line. I would gladly trade my 5 P226 X5s for the new style X-Line. The reason for the redesign was to strengthen the slide to prevent slide cracking yet still remain light weight. But that doesn't mean they aren't collectible. Prices for the first generation X5's have increased significantly on Gunbroker. I've got two X5 Allrounds, one X5 Competition and one X5 L1 four years or so ago (i think?). And the price i got mine for when they first came out is significantly lower than current prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudacher Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The X5 is a mass produced gun of no historical importance. IMO the "standard" versions of the X5 are not collectables. Some ultra-rare versions like the P220 X6 9mm or the P220 X6 45/9 combo kit, and some of the Mastershop guns I would consider to have marginal collectable status. Price increases merely due to lack of availability because of being superseded by an improved product is not the same as being a collectable to me. The X-Line guns currently aren't being made either. Does that make them collectables as well? I view the X-Line guns as more desirable than the stretched P226 X5s. So to me the X-Line guns are more of a collectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootnjunky Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I love my Short and Smart, not sure if I will ever shoot my Black and White. Its just so beautiful and feels great in the hand. Edited March 26, 2016 by Shootnjunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I'm seeing the older X5's show up on gun broker sell fast, but sell for considerably lower than the newer enhanced ones. I've been watching them on gun broker. There are plenty of new old stock non-enhanced models listed for high, but they've been on there a while and none of them are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) The X5 is a mass produced gun of no historical importance. IMO the "standard" versions of the X5 are not collectables. Some ultra-rare versions like the P220 X6 9mm or the P220 X6 45/9 combo kit, and some of the Mastershop guns I would consider to have marginal collectable status. Price increases merely due to lack of availability because of being superseded by an improved product is not the same as being a collectable to me. The X-Line guns currently aren't being made either. Does that make them collectables as well? I view the X-Line guns as more desirable than the stretched P226 X5s. So to me the X-Line guns are more of a collectable. I don't need someone to tell me what is and isn't collectible. It's all in the eye of the beholder. I've been collecting various firearms for years and i can say with certainty there are very few guns that are considered "investment" value, where capital appreciation will occur over time. Now many people like to collect various types of firearms, but that doesn't mean they are investment value. Some people just like to collect certain types. Anyone that thinks they will generate a worthwhile return on their "collection" will be sadly disappointed. But, most people that collect aren't doing it for investment value, but for personal satisfaction. Edited March 27, 2016 by JGus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staudacher Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 JGUS I apologize for making you mad. That was not my intent. It's all in the eye of the beholder. I've been collecting various firearms for years and i can say with certainty there are very few guns that are considered "investment" value, where capital appreciation will occur over time. Now many people like to collect various types of firearms, but that doesn't mean they are investment value. Some people just like to collect certain types. Anyone that thinks they will generate a worthwhile return on their "collection" will be sadly disappointed. But, most people that collect aren't doing it for investment value, but for personal satisfaction. This is actually the point I was trying (unsuccessfully) to make. I read the OP's question as are the X5s now collectible from an investment standpoint. And IMO the X5 in general isn't an investment type of collectible. One of the items I tend to collect is SIG handguns. I currently have 23 of them. At one point 5 of the SIGs in my collection were P220s none of which were chambered in 45. I sold the two 38 Super P220s because I never shot them. I didn't consider them as investments and I didn't see the point of having a gun in the safe that I didn't shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The only way I see Sigs as an investment is if you get a screaming good deal on one that you will always be able to sell for more than you bought it for. I once found a Nitron P220ST for about $200 below normal market value, so I bought it. I shot it twice in four years and, agreeing with staudacher, I sold it for a profit to help fund my X5 Allround. I shoot that one a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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