Need some suggestions for Bayou bullets.

[calan]

Just got some 9mm sample packs of 147 FP, 105 FP, and 135 RN from Bayou.

I will be loading to the following OAL's in my CZ 75B:

105's - 1.040"
135's - 1.110"
147's - 1.135"

I've got HP38/231, Titegroup, WST, and E3 to work with.

Any suggestions or pet loads?

Edited January 12, 2016 by calan

[texasref]

I only load 147's.

With TG 3.2 grains will give you a pf of around 135.

Do a search on your different combinations. There's probably a million answers for each.

[CoachLongShot]

Yeah, what he said. Been using 3.2grs of Titegroup behind the 147 Bayou bullets for the last year or so. Chrono says 135 or slightly higher, and they run great. I'm using them in a Beretta, XDm and Glock 34. No problems, just smiles.

Coach.

[robb315]

3.5 of WST with the 147 got me slightly over 130pf out of my shadow. Same length as you.

[jcc7x7]

Above +1

[seanc]

3.1 of tg with the 147 fp loaded to 1.14 makes 132 pf in my wifes shadow.

[calan]

Thanks for the info so far... still hoping to get some suggestions for the two that I can't find much (any) load data for.

[seanc]

I haven't tried 135's but hear is a bunch of data.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=59686.5;wap2

[robb315]

I've used a bunch of the 135's. Just not with the powders you list.

I was using 4.1-4.2 of 7625 or 3.5-3.6 of N320 for the 135's.

My favorite load though is 3.2 of N320 under the 147. 132pf at every match I've been to that chronos.

Edited January 12, 2016 by robb315

[calan]

I haven't tried 135's but hear is a bunch of data.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=59686.5;wap2

Excellent! Any chance one of those links exist for the 105's?

[rdinga]

3.6 grains of WST with the 147. Very mild and accurate in my guns.

[dave33]

When it comes to the 105's you will be mostly on your own. I like shooting light bullets over fast powders for steel challenge and have been shooting 100gr Ibejihead SWC's for a while now. I got some 105gr Bayou and SNS bullets to try a while back and found them to be pretty accurate if you hit their sweet spots. Out of my XDM 5.25 this window is 1050 to 1150 FPS, using fast burning powders.

Out of what you have listed I have loaded 3 of those 4 powders. The best results I saw accuracy wise was 3.7gr of titegroup running 1141 FPS average and 3.4gr E3 at 1137 FPS average. 3.5gr WST ran 1054 FPS average, not quite as accurate as the TG or E3.

The very best load I have ever found was 3.8gr AA#2 at 1135 FPS. Other good loads for this bullet for me has been 3.4gr Clays at 1085 FPS and 4.2 of SR7625 at 1060 FPS.

Keep in mind at these load ranges you will very likely need a reduced power recoil spring for the gun to function, I run a 14lb spring in my XDM.

Running this bullet much faster or slower generally opens up the groups noticeably. I have run this bullet up to 1335 FPS over 4.95gr of N320 and had good accuracy so if you want to spend the time and energy, another window of accuracy may open up at higher speeds with some other powders, I just have not been inclined to do so.

Good luck with yours, post up some results so the base of information on the 105's can grow.

[calan]

When it comes to the 105's you will be mostly on your own. I like shooting light bullets over fast powders for steel challenge and have been shooting 100gr Ibejihead SWC's for a while now. I got some 105gr Bayou and SNS bullets to try a while back and found them to be pretty accurate if you hit their sweet spots. Out of my XDM 5.25 this window is 1050 to 1150 FPS, using fast burning powders.

Out of what you have listed I have loaded 3 of those 4 powders. The best results I saw accuracy wise was 3.7gr of titegroup running 1141 FPS average and 3.4gr E3 at 1137 FPS average. 3.5gr WST ran 1054 FPS average, not quite as accurate as the TG or E3.

The very best load I have ever found was 3.8gr AA#2 at 1135 FPS. Other good loads for this bullet for me has been 3.4gr Clays at 1085 FPS and 4.2 of SR7625 at 1060 FPS.

Keep in mind at these load ranges you will very likely need a reduced power recoil spring for the gun to function, I run a 14lb spring in my XDM.

Running this bullet much faster or slower generally opens up the groups noticeably. I have run this bullet up to 1335 FPS over 4.95gr of N320 and had good accuracy so if you want to spend the time and energy, another window of accuracy may open up at higher speeds with some other powders, I just have not been inclined to do so.

Good luck with yours, post up some results so the base of information on the 105's can grow.

Thanks for all the great info Dave!

[calan]

Out of what you have listed I have loaded 3 of those 4 powders. The best results I saw accuracy wise was 3.7gr of titegroup running 1141 FPS average and 3.4gr E3 at 1137 FPS average. 3.5gr WST ran 1054 FPS average, not quite as accurate as the TG or E3.

Dave,

What OAL were you loading the 105's to? I'm limited to 1.040" max in my CZ

My initial reason for picking some up was...

I load the .355" Bayou 105's for my 380 Auto, and it's a pretty nice bullet. But, I think an extra thousandth in the diameter would help. Since the 9mm 105's are .356" (and I assumed the 380's should be the same?), I figured I'd try some of those in both the 380 and the 9mm.

Edited January 12, 2016 by calan

[dave33]

Out of what you have listed I have loaded 3 of those 4 powders. The best results I saw accuracy wise was 3.7gr of titegroup running 1141 FPS average and 3.4gr E3 at 1137 FPS average. 3.5gr WST ran 1054 FPS average, not quite as accurate as the TG or E3.

Dave,

What OAL were you loading the 105's to? I'm limited to 1.040" max in my CZ

My initial reason for picking some up was...

I load the .355" Bayou 105's for my 380 Auto, and it's a pretty nice bullet. But, I think an extra thousandth in the diameter would help. Since the 9mm 105's are .356" (and I assumed the 380's should be the same?), I figured I'd try some of those in both the 380 and the 9mm.

If I remember correctly I have loaded this bullet as short as 1.025 and as long as 1.065 and didnt see much difference. The bulk of my rounds would of been in the 1.035-1.045 range though. I have used it sized to .356 and .358 and didnt see any difference in accuracy. In fact the Bayou's were sized to .356, the SNS version were sized to .358, and the Bayou's shot a bit more accurately, which is exactly opposite of what I was expecting.

It is a fun load to shoot fast, recoils about like a .22. You do need to keep a pretty firm grip on the gun though, not to handle the recoil but to give the gun a solid base to work against so it will function.