Jake60 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) I'm looking for opinions on this. I can't really find much on light bullets (eg 90gr) Power factor isn't a requirement. I'm currently ruining a 147 SnS with 2.9gr Titegroup from a xdm 5.25 and a RIA 1911. Both run great and are getting over 125pf. What I'm wanting to do is have my kids shoot pins and plates with me. I'd think a 90gr bullet going slow would shoot softer than a 147? I'd assume I'd have to run 10lb or less recoil spring. any opinions on running super light loads? I've always stuck by the book for the most part. Thanks. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Edited August 2, 2015 by Jake60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I've never gone lower than 115's, but I get them down around PF 105 and they are FUN to shoot, even out of my Kel-Tec P11 (9 ounces). I just use a Very Tiny amount of ww231 or Red Dot and reload down low as my springs will function (don't want to change springs). But, if you change springs, you should be able to get down around PF95 or so - but, try the PF 105 first - you just might Love Them, like I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickT Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm interested in this as well. I'm pretty happy with our 3.3gr WSF/147gr Bayou for Steel Challenge, but I'd like an alternate load that uses a different poweder "just in case". HS-6 seems to be relatively available right now and I do have 8 lbs; I'm inclined to try this with 130gr and see how it shoots. Also have HP-38 and when I get time I'd like to see how low I can go with 115gr or 124gr. We're shooting 9mm 1911s FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 For steel challenge I run a 100gr Ibejihead SWC over 3.4gr of titegroup out of a XDM 5.25. You need a broken in 14lb recoil spring for that to work, I also have a lower power striker spring as part of my powder river trigger kit, that may help as well. You also need to maintain a pretty firm grip, not because of recoil, but the gun needs a solid base to work against to function. Not much more recoil than a .22, makes about a 109 PF. This load is also pretty accurate. I tried a 95 gr RN bullet one time but no matter the load I couldnt get any kind of decent accuracy out of them, looked like shotgun patterning. Probably not enough bearing surface on those to work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake60 Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 Thanks guys. I ordered some 115's and 100gr swc to play with. It'll be fun to try and get the swc to run in my 1911, the xdm eats anything. What's the slowest you all would feel safe running them, without fear of sticking in the barrel? Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 What's the slowest you all would feel safe running them, without fear of sticking in the barrel? You'll get FTF's way before the bullets start sticking in the barrel - Go down to PF110 - they're really fun to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Plus, it's always fun to shoot super slow plated in well lit areas since calling shots is a joke due to the ability to literally watch the bullet to impact lol For shooting steel a 124gr at like 110 or 115pf is a blast through a 1911 with a fairly soft recoil spring btw lol Edited August 10, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2648 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Jake- I am running a similar load with SnS 147g. How is your accuracy with that load? Thanks, Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake60 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 To be honest, I really haven't found a load my xdm doesn't like. I normally get my oal, load a few different charges, chronograph them. Pick the PF I was looking for, and they all shoot well. At 10 yards, they'll clover leaf, at 25 easily 3-4 inches, with me shooting. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerko Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Loaded 155 bullets for my CZTS in .40 and kept dropping the charge till I had a stove pipe. I'm down to 3g of titegroup and it feels like shooting souped up 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake60 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Well since I'm still waiting on my Ibejiheads order, I started toying with 147. From 2.9 - 2.5. 2.5 still operating with stock springs fine. With 2.5 TG still running 118pf. Much softer than the 130s I normally run. So I've now loaded some at 2.2 and 2.0. Will test them tomorrow. It's insane how little powder this is. My lock-out die is worthless at this point. There's no pressure issue or anything I should worry about going this low, is there? I'm seating as long as I can. Thanks for the help guys. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjordan78 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 If you go with too small a charge and load out real long there is a lot of empty space in the cartridge. You will get uneven lighting of the powder and uneven combustion meaning big variations in velocity and accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phecksel Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 i have found 147 = lighter recoil, but I'm moving to 124/125 for everything. Wife's XDs is picky on loads, if I get it too low, it will not cycle properly. My XDm likes everything I feed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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