tcazes Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 hey y'all, finally made an account instead of just lurking and using the search function but i have a question. i ran out of n320 and can't get any anymore so i am trying to find a new powder for my reloads. i shoot a g34 in esp and ssp idpa. the bullets I'm using are 147gr bayou bullets and trying to keep a 130pf for my loads. - my main question is, what powder do y'all recommend other than wst or wsf that seems ever so popular? - WSF sticks to the pan like crazy and doesn't seem to meeter very well in my square deal b. I'm looking for a powder that will be very clean burning and feel similar to n320 while being readily accessible lol any advice? i have tried used dryer sheets, wash with hot water and soap i have tried static clean spray, i have tried all that i can think of and well kinda stumped. i now remember why i hated flake powder with a passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Can't get anymore N320? It has been coming available quite often as of late. I suggest just giving it some time and looking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szhttm Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Powder Valley Inc. has Ramshot Competition in stock and this powder is very similar to VV N320. Reloading Unlimited shows they have N320 in stock. Good Luck And Be Safe!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) we have tons of N320 in europe, meaning no shortage, so guessing it will be better for you soon as well. An even better powder for your heavy bullets to reach 130PF is potentiallly N310, its even faster and cleaner, but less safety margin. N310 meters even better than N320, we are talking 0,05gr meetering. Edited May 22, 2015 by ano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 I was very leary of 310 because of such a narrow margin and not much data out there. I have only been able to find 1 lb of 320 so I'll keep my hopes up. I have some 310 and 340 so I'll try that this weekend over the chrono. What starting load do yall recomend for 310? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 For 9mm, Universal Clays works well, meters well, and doesn't cling to everything like WST does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You could try 3N37. As for static cling, cut a couple of strips (1" wide) of USED Bounce dryer sheets and drape them into the empty powder measure and then add the powder. I found that this helped somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) good idea pete. i found that good ole dish soap and air dry helped out a ton. but regardless, can't beat the ease of a pellet or ball powder today I'm going chrono a few new loads 3.0 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.1 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.2 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.5 of n340 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.7 of n340 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.5 of WSF behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.6 of WSF behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.7 of WSF behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.8 of WSF behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp i got a lb of 340 and 4lbs of 310 for free so figured id try them out as well. all test will be done out of my gen 4 g34 with a stock barrel using bayou bullets. will let y'all know what i find out! Edited May 23, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) ok well 3.2grns of n310 takes the win for my new load. it shot beautifully. And extremely consistently with great accuracy. 3.1 felt slightly better but the velocity spread was wider than the 3.2grn load. all test rounds wer at 1.15 OAL and 3.8 crimp using cci500 primers and a gen 4 g34 with a stock barrel. mixed headstamp brass and 147gr, bayou bullets. 10rnds each. WSF -3.5 Hi- 897.2 LO- 849.1 AVG- 875.8 AVG PF- 128 -3.6 Hi- 924.3 LO- 888.2 AVG- 911.8 AVG PF- 134 -3.7 Hi- 926.2 LO- 887.3 AVG- 911.13 AVG PF- 133 -3.8 Hi- 941.6 LO- 907.1 AVG- 926.21 AVG PF- 136 N340 -3.5 HI- 902.5 LO- 846.9 AVG- 875.3 AVG PF- 128 -3.7 HI- 910.2 LO- 881.7 AVG- 901.9 AVG PF- 132 N310 -3.0 HI- 927.7 LO- 891.1 AVG- 907.45 AVG PF- 133 -3.1 HI- 920.6 LO- 897.7 AVG- 907.6 AVG PF- 133 -3.2 HI- 955.4 LO- 920.3 AVG- 935.1 AVG PF- 137 Edited May 23, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDA Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I have two powder measures and one had no cling problem regardless of powder, and the other was like a powder magnet. Even N320 coated the inside of it when you tried to dump it out. This morning I wiped it out with a cloth that was lightly sprayed with a "anti-static" plastic cleaner (aerosol can) and now nothing clings to it. I used some Clay's in it and it dumped out clean without a trace of powder sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 My hopper and funnel have never had issues it was just the pan with wsf. I think it was just the fact it's super fine flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 3.0 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.1 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp 3.2 of n310 behind 147gr to 1.150 OAL 3.8 crimp What bullet? Free is good, really good when it comes to Vihtavuori powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcazes Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Bayou 147s dang I thought I put that. Will go update that post! Dang I can't edit that. Well atleast I said it in the follow up post lol. Edited May 25, 2015 by tcazes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 ok well 3.2grns of n310 takes the win for my new load. it shot beautifully. And extremely consistently with great accuracy. 3.1 felt slightly better but the velocity spread was wider than the 3.2grn load. all test rounds wer at 1.15 OAL and 3.8 crimp using cci500 primers and a gen 4 g34 with a stock barrel. mixed headstamp brass and 147gr, bayou bullets. 10rnds each. Bullet weight is listed - in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elcidaviator Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I don't have any issues with WSF in my 550. However, I had static problems with any powder in my RCBS powder measurer. As stated above the fix was to wipe the thing down with dryer sheets. I however used new dryer sheets and wiped down the inside. I didn't have any issues after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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