freedoms Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. 21075 Casefeed Plate - Large Rifle 21101 XL 650 Caliber Conv: 223 Rem/5.56 10839 Dillon 223/5.56 3-Die Set - Steel $ 67.95 13254 Dillon 223/5.56 Rem Stainless Case Gage 22059 650 Deluxe Quick Change Kit Also do I need to order this also 650 Priming Quick-Change assembly Thanks for any help you can give Edited February 11, 2015 by freedoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohn Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. Go to Brian's store, click on Dillon Precision, click on 650, click on and read FAQ's, THEN PLACE YOUR ORDER WITH BRIAN,. He will review you order to insure every thing is correct and that you are not missing anything. You will also get a shipping discount by ordering from Brian. By buying from Brian, you also help to contribute to the cost of running this excellent resource that all of us enjoy and you will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchies95 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I personally wouldn't go with the priming quick change assembly. It's pretty easy to change primer rotary plates so to me it is not worth the expense. The other stuff looks right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I personally wouldn't go with the priming quick change assembly. It's pretty easy to change primer rotary plates so to me it is not worth the expense. The other stuff looks right to me. would I have to change the plates it to do this change from 45 acp to 223/5.56 ? Edited February 11, 2015 by freedoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelindsey Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I have problems getting that clip off the priming system that goes over the round disc with holes in it to hold the primers. I got tired of it and just ordered another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If you push the other end down against the spring tension you can easily remove the clip. DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE BALL UNDERNEATH THE PLATE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I personally wouldn't go with the priming quick change assembly. It's pretty easy to change primer rotary plates so to me it is not worth the expense. The other stuff looks right to me. would I have to change the plates it to do this change from 45 acp to 223/5.56 ?would I have to change the plates it to do this change to from 45 acp 223/5.56 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. 21075 Casefeed Plate - Large Rifle 21101 XL 650 Caliber Conv: 223 Rem/5.56 10839 Dillon 223/5.56 3-Die Set - Steel $ 67.95 13254 Dillon 223/5.56 Rem Stainless Case Gage 22059 650 Deluxe Quick Change Kit Also do I need to order this also 650 Priming Quick-Change assembly Thanks for any help you can give For 223, you will need the Small Rifle Casefeed Plate. Everything else looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 If you use SP .45 ACP brass you won't have to change the priming mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 If you use SP .45 ACP brass you won't have to change the priming mechanism.SP .45 ACP brass? SP = small primer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. 21075 Casefeed Plate - Large Rifle 21101 XL 650 Caliber Conv: 223 Rem/5.56 10839 Dillon 223/5.56 3-Die Set - Steel $ 67.95 13254 Dillon 223/5.56 Rem Stainless Case Gage 22059 650 Deluxe Quick Change Kit Also do I need to order this also 650 Priming Quick-Change assembly Thanks for any help you can give For 223, you will need the Small Rifle Casefeed Plate. Everything else looks good. I recheck and I did click on the wrong one thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Yes, Small Primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 That list will get you loading pre-prepped or new brass only. If you are planning to prep your own brass, there is another list of stuff... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yes, Small Primer.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 That list will get you loading pre-prepped or new brass only. If you are planning to prep your own brass, there is another list of stuff... jj can you list the prep stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Case trimmers Primer pocket swager I did not see a replacement tool head in there. Maybe that is in the quick change kit? If you are changing calibers a lot, get a spare white plastic nipple for the powder fail safe rod. You probably need a different powder bar for the 223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Case trimmers Primer pocket swager I did not see a replacement tool head in there. Maybe that is in the quick change kit? If you are changing calibers a lot, get a spare white plastic nipple for the powder fail safe rod. You probably need a different powder bar for the 223. I think that all comes with The Deluxe Quick-Change Kit includes a Toolhead, Toolhead Stand, Powder Measure and Powder Die. Do you know what the part number for Case trimmers, Primer pocket swager right now I'm only going to do45 acp and 223 and maybe down the road 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 You will have to decide how you want to go to do all that. There are many ways, and range from $50 solutions to $$ k solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) You will have to decide how you want to go to do all that. There are many ways, and range from $50 solutions to $$ k solutionsNot about the cost I want it right and as EZ as I can. Edited February 12, 2015 by freedoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1gcountry Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well if you want to reload range pickup 223, you need some way to trim the brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullzaye Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 How about a 1050? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 How about a 1050?This would be my first press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. 21075 Casefeed Plate - Large Rifle 21101 XL 650 Caliber Conv: 223 Rem/5.56 10839 Dillon 223/5.56 3-Die Set - Steel $ 67.95 13254 Dillon 223/5.56 Rem Stainless Case Gage 22059 650 Deluxe Quick Change Kit Also do I need to order this also 650 Priming Quick-Change assembly Thanks for any help you can give Wrong Casefeed Plate... you need the "small" rifle Add a .45 ACP Case Gauge to your order. I'm reading over the thread and have a suggestion... I would suggest you order your 650 in 45 ACP and forget about loading 223/5.56 for a while. 45 ACP is relatively safe and easy round to load so it's a good choice to get started. Learn your new press and become proficient loading 45 ACP before you order the components necessary to load 223/5.56. Wait to order 223/5.56 until YOU know EXACTLY what you need to get started. .223 is less forgiving with than 45 ACP. Go slow and learn. You'll know when you're ready to add a new caliber and you'll be better prepared to make decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) This pertains to rifle brass only...pistol loading is much easier... If you are going to prep the brass on the 650 (which I highly advise) you will need; another 650 toolhead for prep a Dillon trimmer, 1200 or 1500 a universal decap die for the loading head and a primer pocket swager - Dillon Super Swage 600 the process goes something like this; tumble the brass clean CASE LUBE IS MANDATORY! don't try to size rifle brass without it, it will stick in the die! run thru the processing head with 2 dies; 1st die is full length size and decaper, decaps and sizes the brass to almost fitting a case gauge, but not quite 2nd die is trimmer which is also a size die. set the die to finish the size to gauge, and trims to 1.750 when setting up this head, keep both dies populated for consistency then tumble to remove case lube, and swage primer pockets with SS600 (if military brass) then install the loading head; 1st die is universal decapper to remove tumbling media from primer pocket and flash hole load as normal jj Edited February 12, 2015 by RiggerJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedoms Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm ordering a XL 650 total setup for 45 acp I'm looking at what I would need to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 so far I think this is what I will need I want to be able to change it out the fastest and EZ way with out changing the other Caliber setting this is the list I have so far. 21075 Casefeed Plate - Large Rifle 21101 XL 650 Caliber Conv: 223 Rem/5.56 10839 Dillon 223/5.56 3-Die Set - Steel $ 67.95 13254 Dillon 223/5.56 Rem Stainless Case Gage 22059 650 Deluxe Quick Change Kit Also do I need to order this also 650 Priming Quick-Change assembly Thanks for any help you can give Wrong Casefeed Plate... you need the "small" rifle Add a .45 ACP Case Gauge to your order. I'm reading over the thread and have a suggestion... I would suggest you order your 650 in 45 ACP and forget about loading 223/5.56 for a while. 45 ACP is relatively safe and easy round to load so it's a good choice to get started. Learn your new press and become proficient loading 45 ACP before you order the components necessary to load 223/5.56. Wait to order 223/5.56 until YOU know EXACTLY what you need to get started. .223 is less forgiving with than 45 ACP. Go slow and learn. You'll know when you're ready to add a new caliber and you'll be better prepared to make decisions. This is what I have order so far.I was going to order this from Brian Enos's but on my local Gun Store forum I found a local Dillon dealer that came highly recommended that offer's the same pricing as Brian's just the shipping was higher $45.00 but also Includes Assembly/setup and operator training he's only 15 Min from my house he also dose all the NRA reloading training classes in the three states around me I'm also going to take the NRA reloading training on the next one he has. This is the list that I have order with him. 1 Dillon XL650 45 acp. Press 2 Dillon XL650 Casefeed Assembly 3 650 only Strong Mount/Bullet Tray/Alum Roller Handle 4 Powder Check System 5 Low Powder Sensor 6 Primer Flip Tray 7 4-Pack Pickup Tubes, 2 Sm/2 Lg 8 650 Maintenance & Spare Parts Kit 9 Toolholder w/Wrenches 10 45 ACP Case Gages 11 45 ACP/GAP die sets 12 10-pack Pistol Die De-priming Pins 13 UniqeTek Micrometer Powder Bar Kit 14 UniqeTek Bin Dam XL650 15 Double Powder Baffle Dillon 16 5 Pak Depriming Pins 17 Frankfort Arsenal Vibra Primer Tube Filler The 223 list is to add it to another list I'm going to place right away with Brian Enos's this way I'll have everything down the road and save on shipping I wasn't going to setup the 223 till I have become proficient loading 45 ACP. This is the list that I'll be order this week. 1 Small one CM-500 Case/Media Separator 2 Dillon Case Lube 3 BrianEnos.com Pro-digital Scale 4 BrianEnos.com Digital Caliper 5 Dillon's CV-2001 Vibratory Case Cleaner 6 Dillon's Instructional DVDs 7 Competition Reloading DVD 8 Rapid Polish 9 Bullet Puller 10 650 Machine Cover 11 And I like to order everything to add a Caliber 223 Rem/5.56 Thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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