OscarMike Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Hey all! Starting a local "SoCo 3 Gun" match at the Pikes Peak Gun Club in Colorado Springs. Here is the Match Announcement: "It's official! Our first match is going to be 10am at Pikes Peak Gun Club on November 1st!We have partnered with PPGC, and are going to have 4 bay-style stages with lots of great steel and paper targets!$25 match fee. 4 squad maximum with 12 person per squad max. No reservations necessary.100/100/100 round count MAXIMUM. I'll get the stages out with official round count via email.Email SoCo3Gun@gmail.com to get on the match list.PPGC has some rules that we MUST follow. No speeding in the parking lot. Absolutely no tracer, steel core, bimetal, etc ammo. AK and SKS guys, your ammo will be checked. No Buckshot. Birdshot is the only shotgun ammo allowed except for specific slug targets. https://www.facebook.com/SoCo3Gun " Edited October 9, 2014 by OscarMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Just added your match and link to your Facebook page to the 3-Gun Nation AR15.com club match listing. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacticalCOWBOY Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I have shot the ppgc twice now. it has always been a blast. now to let the 3gun begin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 What rule set and scoring are you going to use? jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Thanks Jesse! TacCowboy, look forward to seeing you there! JJ, Not 100% worked out, but probably 1 A or 2 anywhere on paper, and 1 on all steel. We will do time plus penalties. Something like 5 ftn, 10 fte and 10 procedural. I haven't solidified all the details yet, and when I send out the first set of stages, I'll include a quick shooters brief page explaining the rules and expectations. Edited October 10, 2014 by OscarMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Total time or 100 point stages? Reason I ask is, it used to be time plus penalties actually meant 100 point stages, but lately seems that means all stages added up for a total time, ala idpa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Total time or 100 point stages? Reason I ask is, it used to be time plus penalties actually meant 100 point stages, but lately seems that means all stages added up for a total time, ala idpa... I get confused too! Everything is time plus penalties. Cumulative time or stage points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 In the end, the guy who shoots fastest and straightest wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 That's not necessarily true with a 100 points per stage match but I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick S Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Is this going to be a monthly match? Do you plan on running it year round? Thanks Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Jesse and JJ, total accumulative time. No point system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Nick This first one is going to be a trial to see if we can't turn it into a monthly match. That's the goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Bump. Lot of emails. Thanks for the interest guys. Over 100 on my email list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Okay... So Mark JJ and Mike talked me into it. Made a practiscore account and we'll be doing time + penalties scored out of 100 per stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Points is tougher to calculate, but in the end it normalizes the value of each stage. Short stage, long stage, technical or really fast... they are all worth the same value. In addition, if a competitor has a really bad malfunction or their gun breaks, they only tank that one stage. They get to start over on the next stage and have an opportunity to salvage the match. With total points, a person can experience an equipment problem and rather than take the time to fix it and try to salvage some stage points, they would feel more compelled to just stop right there so as to not accumulate more total time. In total time scoring, if you tank a stage, you will never be able to cut enough time off the other stages to salvage your match. In total time, you could blow the first stage in a 5 stage match and then pull down 4 stage wins. Won't matter, your match is still jacked. Points is harder to figure, but in the end it is a much better representation of a shooters skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Makes a lot of sense to me Mike. It was a cooperative effort, but you 3 all sold it to me I've had a match where I had a bad equipment failure, and I tried to push through it, and killed my time. I would've appreciated the time + score a lot on that one. I'm getting excited! Targets are ordered, FRIDPA loaners are lined up... Stages are starting to look good, I think that we'll have a darned good time as long as the weather holds out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyH Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Welp! my Weekend plans got scrub'd! So looks like I'll have this weekend free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sweeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddywings Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Congrats on completing your first match. It went really well and I'm looking forward to lots more in the future. The stages were fun and challenging without being overly ambitious. Things ran smoothly and we got done and cleaned up by 2:30. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddywings Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Congrats on completing your first match. It went really well and I'm looking forward to lots more in the future. The stages were fun and challenging without being overly ambitious. Things ran smoothly and we got done and cleaned up by 2:30. Good job! ^^what he said. Hopefully not your first and last match. look forward to more next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarMike Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks guys! I had a lot of fun doing it! Definitely will be a next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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