sarpau Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Your shotgun will probably be too long for standard Dillen. I had to run an 11 round tube or get one of those super thin Benelli butt pads to make the length requirement which of course I didn't have. Sing me up for Outlaw. My only request is to pay no attention to the IPSC requirement that most stages should SUCK, I mean most stages are short courses. The Pan American match about 8 rounded me to death! Length restrictions are only for open and modified divisions in IPSC. (looks like no modified at this match so only affects open) Standard and Manual, run one as long as you want. Although the mulligan helped me out last year, glad its gone. Sounds like this should be a good match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Your shotgun will probably be too long for standard Dillen. I had to run an 11 round tube or get one of those super thin Benelli butt pads to make the length requirement which of course I didn't have. Sing me up for Outlaw. My only request is to pay no attention to the IPSC requirement that most stages should SUCK, I mean most stages are short courses. The Pan American match about 8 rounded me to death! Length restrictions are only for open and modified divisions in IPSC. (looks like no modified at this match so only affects open) Standard and Manual, run one as long as you want. Although the mulligan helped me out last year, glad its gone. Sounds like this should be a good match That's weird! open isn't as open as standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonedrone Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Very much looking forward to this match again, especially as a world shoot warm up!! Thanks for making it happen again lonedrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 We will do our best to help the world match competitors get a tune up while providing a quality match experience for those who are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62mm Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who is on the USA World Shoot Teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who is on the USA World Shoot Teams?My guess would be anyone that can go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who is on the USA World Shoot Teams? Future division winners at the IPSC World Shoot. No one seems to know, including me. I have asked several and I just asked Strader to get me the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Who is on the USA World Shoot Teams? Future division winners at the IPSC World Shoot. No one seems to know, including me. I have asked several and I just asked Strader to get me the list. Of the people that shot on the Pan Am teams last go round that have first shot at a slot on the teams i only know Outzen, Houck, Miculeks, Di have said they are going. I bet the slots are up for negotiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7.62mm Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Who is on the USA World Shoot Teams? Future division winners at the IPSC World Shoot. Like.....Senior....Super Senior??????? I should put a smiley face in here somewhere...... Edited March 4, 2015 by 7.62mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Out of curiousity, do the IPSC rules allow rounds on the carrier for chamber empty starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarpau Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 There is nothing in the rules that prohibits it. Only way I can think of is if it is specifically stated on the stage briefing. Option 2 start: Magazine filled/fitted with chamber empty and action closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The stages will require one of the 3 following start conditions: 8.1.1.1 Loaded (Option 1): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) loaded, hammer and/or sear cocked and safety catch applied (if the shotgun is designed to have one). 8.1.1.2 Loaded (Option 2): magazine filled and fitted (if applicable), chamber(s) empty and the action closed. 8.1.1.3 Unloaded (Option 3): fixed magazine must be empty, detachable magazines removed and chamber(s) must be empty. The action/bolt may be open or closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Rockcastle is working on the application. I have not heard back from Strader regarding the US team, so if you know someone who IS GOING to WS and wants to shoot the Benelli match, please have them contact me by the end of the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Rockcastle is working on the application. I have not heard back from Strader regarding the US team, so if you know someone who IS GOING to WS and wants to shoot the Benelli match, please have them contact me by the end of the weekend. Do you have a approx date for sign ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Should be ready next week. I will post the link to the 2015 match here when that thread is started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No mulligans sounds great, but IPSC-compliant stages also imply no mixed-ammo stages and no spinners. That kinda sucks... The only hope is that 50 rounder stage will have it all, but then results of that stage will largely affect your overall standings (i.e. some disbalance). Are you guys also planning to use IPSC HF scoring or it will be timeplus or timeplus with points like? The latter is practically the same as HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Can you tell me the rule(s) that implies no mixed ammo stages? All I see in the 2015 rules is that the ammo loaded at the start can not be mixed. It will be Comstock scoring as that is the only method in the 2015 ruleset, unless I missed something. The 50+ round stage will not be IPSC compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Can you tell me the rule(s) that implies no mixed ammo stages? All I see in the 2015 rules is that the ammo loaded at the start can not be mixed. 2.1.12 Permitted Ammunition – Courses of fire must nominate a single permitted type of ammunition, i.e. birdshot, buckshot or slugs. It will be Comstock scoring as that is the only method in the 2015 ruleset, unless I missed something. The 50+ round stage will not be IPSC compliant. So, that's is Hit Factor scoring. sarpau, your "miss fast enough" strategy may work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Thanks, so yes, I guess that does mean only one type of ammo per stage, which will be disregarded on the 50+ round stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJW Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Okay, if I sign up for this I realize I will have to read the IPSC shotgun rules, but, in general, for Standard (that would be the non-Open semi-auto division, right?) what sort of restrictions would I be looking at compared to USPSA shotgun or typical Tactical 3-Gun shotgun? I get that all ammo has to be at the belt, but what other gotchas do I have to worry about? Do our usual 3-Gun loading ports and extended lifters pass muster? Do all the usual deuce and quad caddies make the 50mm restriction? Lastly, I assume that for the 50-round mega-stage, we can add a chest rig even if we are shooting an IPSC division, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) The only restriction for Standard and SM is 9 rounds in the gun at the start signal. For Open - 10 rounds in any boxed magazine used at all times, or max 14 rounds in a tube magazine at the start (can load more after). All ammo holders for all divisions must comply with 50mm from the body rule. Edited March 7, 2015 by euxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 The loading ports and lifers are good. Shells on the gun have to be individually held, and yes, all ammo from the belt. As far as "all the usual deuce and quad caddies..." most do not pass IPSC rules, sorry. That is why there is an "Outlaw" division. We will do equipment check, and affix a tamper proof seal, at check in. If you pass, great. If not you will be allowed to move to Outlaw. For the 50+ round stage, the only thing you will be allowed to change is the addition of chest rigs in the standard divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It is not 50mm, it is 75mm. Here is the rule: 5.2.5 When carried in loops, clips or caddies no part of any cartridge is permitted to extend further than 75mm from a competitor's body. Cartridges carried on the gun are exempt and loose cartridges carried in a pouch or bag are usually exempt from this rule. The Range Master’s decision will be final in this matter. Open Division competitors are exempt from this rule. 5.2.5.1 The measurement is to be taken while the competitor is standing naturally upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euxx Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 My bad. This probably changed in this year rulebook edition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 75mm - 2.95" BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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