3 Gun Nation Regional Series Updates

[Jesse Tischauser]

But they didn't keep it pure. They allowed the red dot. Plus they are listening to shooters. So they may change if the shooters want something else.

I think a heavy Tac irons division .308, 9mm, 12 auto would be twice as popular as the current HI. Heck the old school purists aren't going to shoot these matches anyhow. I think they have made that clear in all the other threads.

[co-exprs]

But they didn't keep it pure. They allowed the red dot. Plus they are listening to shooters. So they may change if the shooters want something else.

I think a heavy Tac irons division .308, 9mm, 12 auto would be twice as popular as the current HI. Heck the old school purists aren't going to shoot these matches anyhow. I think they have made that clear in all the other threads.

I am an old school purist and I want to shoot these matches. I would shoot it in HMI (as it is written now) or one of the light divisions and save the ammo cost. Proly Limited as I still like the 1x challenge and need to take advantage of my good peepers while they last. The original "HeMan" guys wanted to run the division with 1x allowed, but at the time most HeMen were shooting M1A's and FALs. Neither of which is optic friendly. It's only been recently that the AR10 rifles have become more popular.

[Sterling White]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

Edited November 26, 2013 by Sterling White

[csole]

MANY THANKS TO FREEDOM MUNITIONS...THESE FOLKS HAVE REALLY SUPPORTED OUR SPORT OF 3 GUN. PLEASE RETURN THE FAVOR AND LOOK THEM UP FOR YOUR NEXT AMMO BUY. The prize table just got closer to our goal of 150k at each event....

FROM 3GUNNATION.COM

3-Gun Nation signed an agreement recently that names Freedom Munitions as a Platinum Sponsor for the 2014 3GN Regional Series, presented by Cheaper Than Dirt! As such, Freedom Munitions has agreed to provide $60,000 in ammunition certificates for 3GN Regional Championship prize tables.

“Freedom Munitions is proud to sponsor the 3GN Regionals for 2014,” said Jansen Jones, Marketing Director, Freedom Munitions. “After reviewing all the efforts 3GN pours into giving shooters the best shooting experience possible, it was a no brainer for us. 3-Gun Nation delivers a consistent, clean and professional product, and as a shooter, I really appreciate all they are doing for developing and expanding the sport of 3-gun.”

Each 3GN Regional Championship Match will feature $15,000 in product certificates from Freedom Munitions. The 2014 3GN Regional Series comprises the following matches: Para USA-3GN Southeast Regional Championship, March 1-2, Clinton, SC; Remington-3GN West Regional Championship, May 17-18, Las Vegas, NV; DPMS Panther Arms-3GN Midwest Regional Championship, Aug. 16-17, Park City, KY; Bushmaster-3GN Southwest Regional Championship, Oct. 11-12, Marble Falls, TX.

Though a relatively new company compared to other ammunition manufacturers, Freedom Munitions has quickly jumped into 3-gun in a big way, sponsoring the entire Noveske Shooting Team, as well as several major matches around the country.

In 2014, along with its sponsorship of the 3GN Regional Series, Freedom Munitions will support a local 3GN Club Series-based schedule of matches, one similar to the wildly popular Bushmaster Tarheel 3-Gun Series in North Carolina.

For more information on Freedom Munitions, go to www.freedommunitions.com.

To compete in a 3GN Regional event, become a 3GN Member and register on Thanksgiving Day at 9 PM EST, at https://memberships.3gunnation.com/Members/Register

Edited November 26, 2013 by csole

[Jesse Tischauser]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

[co-exprs]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

LOL... Nice sucker punch. I didn't know we get to vote or get any input what so ever regarding regarding 3GN policies and efforts. After the rules vote, when do we vote on the 3GN Regional match schedule? Like maybe getting a say in having a new major match triple booked right over my match in May. I'm all for what 3GN represents and what they bring to the table, but if you want to step up and be the spokesperson, you're gonna get the heat that comes with it.

[steel1212]

Ok maybe I missed it but where do I sign up for the Regional at 9pm the 28th, in 2 days?

[Uber]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

LOL... Nice sucker punch. I didn't know we get to vote or get any input what so ever regarding regarding 3GN policies and efforts. After the rules vote, when do we vote on the 3GN Regional match schedule? Like maybe getting a say in having a new major match triple booked right over my match in May. I'm all for what 3GN represents and what they bring to the table, but if you want to step up and be the spokesperson, you're gonna get the heat that comes with it.

Oh great. Here we go again with another thread i have to unfollow, because it fills my email up with useless crap, instead of helpful information

[csole]

To answer some of the concerns...but not all... more later...useful info I would say....

Heavy Metal (only) = 1 hit anywhere on paper to score

Heavy Metal/Tactical Irons = 1 non magnified optic in conjunction with or w/o traditional iron sights in any configuration (offset or cowitness acceptable)

Heavy Metal Optics = Tac-Optics w/ a .308 rifle

Drums are allowed in all divisions. Heavy Metal is a 20rd loaded max

Yes there will be a standardized barricade that offers the same equal firing positions for left and right handers and allows all shooters to choose how to engage targets from each position unless stated in the stage briefing. Plan are to have them available at MGM for sale.

Prone, sitting, kneeling and standing will be available on each barricade unless stated in the briefing.

Targets do not have an A, B, C or D zone. We will be using the 3GN official paper target at all Regional matches.

Shooters will choose a primary and secondary division AT SIGN UP. Should the primary not have the mandated minimum participation, the competitor will be moved to the secondary division. When a shooter is bumped they will receive an email to inform them of the division change.

There will be cut off date and if a division in question does not meet the minimum it will be thrown out of the match. Shooters will not be able to show up and jump into a division that has be cancelled.

The cut off date will be 3-4 weeks out from the match in question. Shooters will be given an adequate heads up to prepare for the division change.

If the 10th shooter in a division backs out after the refund cut off date the division will stand and still be honored. If it is before and a refund is granted the other 9 will be notified and placed in their secondary divisions.

Edited November 27, 2013 by csole

[co-exprs]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

LOL... Nice sucker punch. I didn't know we get to vote or get any input what so ever regarding regarding 3GN policies and efforts. After the rules vote, when do we vote on the 3GN Regional match schedule? Like maybe getting a say in having a new major match triple booked right over my match in May. I'm all for what 3GN represents and what they bring to the table, but if you want to step up and be the spokesperson, you're gonna get the heat that comes with it.

Oh great. Here we go again with another thread i have to unfollow, because it fills my email up with useless crap, instead of helpful information

Sorry about that. Moment of weakness, letting my hackles up. Won't happen again.

[michael A]

Will junior points be earned in tac ops only?

[steel1212]

Ok maybe I missed it but where do I sign up for the Regional at 9pm the 28th, in 2 days?

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[nheiny13]

Ok maybe I missed it but where do I sign up for the Regional at 9pm the 28th, in 2 days?

+1

[Flatland Shooter]

Shooters will choose a primary and secondary division AT SIGN UP. Should the primary not have the mandated minimum participation, the competitor will be moved to the secondary division. When a shooter is bumped they will receive an email to inform them of the division change.

There will be cut off date and if a division in question does not meet the minimum it will be thrown out of the match. Shooters will not be able to show up and jump into a division that has be cancelled.

The cut off date will be 3-4 weeks out from the match in question. Shooters will be given an adequate heads up to prepare for the division change.

If the 10th shooter in a division backs out after the refund cut off date the division will stand and still be honored. If it is before and a refund is granted the other 9 will be notified and placed in their secondary divisions.

To be sure I understand correctly, if a Division is cancelled, it will be far enough before the "no more refunds date" that we can cancel rather than be moved to another Division.

Since I shoot Open and Open only, this will have some bearing on my decision to sign up Thursday.

Thanks.

Bill

[GM2B]

This prize table seems to be stacking up very tall! I hope the stages are just as great! Looking forward to shooting some of these matches!

[caz41]

So what are the rules for Divisional, Pro series qualifier, etc?

[Tennille223]

A bit of information on the Regional series

Registration for all four of the 3GN Regional Championships will begin Nov 28 at https://memberships.3gunnation.com/members/register. You must be an active 3GN Member to register for the matches. If you are interested, you are highly encouraged to have your membership processed prior to logging in on Nov. 28 as registration is expected to be high.

Ok maybe I missed it but where do I sign up for the Regional at 9pm the 28th, in 2 days?

[Tennille223]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

We considered it long and hard, but the fact is, old school Heavy Metal is a dying division, I have seen it get smaller and smaller each year for the last 13 years at the Ironman. Change won't ever make everyone happy, but we are hopeful that these small changes will help build the division.

[P.E. Kelley]

Tennille, Sent you a PM with a membership issue that I hope you can help me with.

Thanks

I don't want to mess up my chances of signing up for the regional matches!!!

Edited November 27, 2013 by P.E. Kelley

[Chills1994]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

I have never played major league baseball either, but I still gripe about the Cardinals' pitching staff. Arggh....

[Chills1994]

I take it that there are no major/minor power factor rules to abide by??? Instead of using the "heavy metal ______" moniker but still allow a 9mm pistol or a 20 gauge semiauto shotgun, why not just call it "major rifle" or "the AR10 division"?

[Chills1994]

3GN should embrace the old school train of thought for HeMan: 45 auto (8 rds), 12 ga pump (8+1), 308 w/ iron sights.

If you're not shooting 3GN matches do you get to vote?

LOL... Nice sucker punch. I didn't know we get to vote or get any input what so ever regarding regarding 3GN policies and efforts. After the rules vote, when do we vote on the 3GN Regional match schedule? Like maybe getting a say in having a new major match triple booked right over my match in May. I'm all for what 3GN represents and what they bring to the table, but if you want to step up and be the spokesperson, you're gonna get the heat that comes with it.

Oh great. Here we go again with another thread i have to unfollow, because it fills my email up with useless crap, instead of helpful information

just tag the threads you want to follow by posting in it (like you just did ^^^). Then do an advanced search and type in your screenname. That's how I keep track of my posts.

[Chills1994]

I am not certain what you mean "by standard stages"? Maybe classifier stages? We may have one or two classifier stages in the regional matches. They will include some of the new classifiers which could function as a stage in any three gun match, see below.

Next we (3 Gun Nation) have compiled a very experienced staff to admin, design, and run the 2014 3GN Regional Series. We do intend to engaged some local help to staff RO slots but the admin, range master, CRO , MD and stage design will come from the 3GN staff. The stages will offer "shooter options" and consist of long range rifle (but not a DMM , approximate 200 to 300 yards) , high round count shotgun courses, and one or two dynamic "bay type" courses. We will also employee the "3GN Rifle Platform". 3GN and MGM are designing a rifle barricade that will be used on all long range rifle engagements. This affords a competitor a fare and consistent rifle positions which will make rifle stages about marksmanship.

If you are curious what the 3GN Regional stages might entail check out some of these YouTube links, it will give you a fare taste of the 3GN Regional stage design flavor:

http://youtu.be/jjfNqyiX4SI

http://youtu.be/hlljZLG_ffE

The majority crew that is designing these events puts on one or two 3 gun match per month that usually see 80-100 competitors per event and they generally have a waitlist.

Classifier type for Regionals

Serious question: when you go to print those out, can you get them to fit on a standard 8.5"X11" sheet of paper?

When I used to MD, I always ran my stage diagram hard copies through a laminating machine. It made them easier to staple up, and sturdier to wind and rain/moisture.

Please don't take my posts as being a "Negative Nancy" or a "Debbie Downer". All you guys in 3 Gun Nation are on the verge of something great, which is mainstreaming competitive shooting in a spectator friendly manner. Of course, there are going to be some bugs to work out, and some growing pains, and some Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

That said....DAYUMMMNNN! That is a helluva classifier stage!

[csole]

So what are the rules for Divisional, Pro series qualifier, etc?

So what are the rules for Divisional, Pro series qualifier, etc?

Divisonal will run under regional rules but your best one score from the regionals is your divisional score. Pro and Pro series Qualifier run under 3GN Pro Series rules.

[steel1212]

A bit of information on the Regional series

Registration for all four of the 3GN Regional Championships will begin Nov 28 at https://memberships.3gunnation.com/members/register. You must be an active 3GN Member to register for the matches. If you are interested, you are highly encouraged to have your membership processed prior to logging in on Nov. 28 as registration is expected to be high.

Ok maybe I missed it but where do I sign up for the Regional at 9pm the 28th, in 2 days?

That just takes me to renew my membership which I've done. What am I missing?