achard Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Hi, I don't know where to put this question. I just want to know if it is possible to shoot in between shot with .11 split using standard gun. How can I imporve my split? my best was .19 about 10ft distance with 3 ipsc target with 3 down Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 achard, IIRC, Erik Warren posted somewhere in these forums he has been able to shoot .09 splits, and I bet there are a lot of other forum members who can do the same or very close (at that distance my splits are in the .15/16 neighbourhood). But, what's the purpose of doing so? The question you should ask yourself is "Am I looking for a fast trigger, or am I looking to improve my split times between two good hits?" The problem is not how fast you can pull the trigger, but how fast you can see what you need to see to break that second (fast) shot with confidence on the bullet hitting the spot you were aiming at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 word up. watch TJ's run at the Nats (www.andersonshooting.com) it doesn't look like he ever shot anything faster than a .20 split and still finished top 5 on the stage. It's about the hits, not the splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 ideal splits for me would be .2 in the A zone every time. M class limited shooter. No need to really shoot faster than that for me. Sometimes I shoot faster, but seldom by intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Actually, I've done .08. I will only rarely hit .11 or .12 in a match. A much more common and comfortable split is .17 to 19 on close targets. I have even been slowing down to .20 or more to ensure alphas on close targets and seeing my hit factors improve from it. There are a bunch of threads on the subject of "splits" if you search on that term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Movement efficiency wins not splits. But if you can do .10sec splits all day long, hey, don't let us stop you from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yup, but splits sure help in no-movement speed shoots, standards, and classifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achard Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Thanks for the reply guy. acutally from 7m (3 targets 1m apart) my split was .23 between in shot and my travers was .26 atleast. but beyond 10m my split was .26 and traverse was .3 at least. Any comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Thanks for the reply guy. acutally from 7m (3 targets 1m apart) my split was .23 between in shot and my travers was .26 atleast. but beyond 10m my split was .26 and traverse was .3 at least. Any comment? The split and transition can be the same at the distance you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 i shoot awesome splits in matches(around .16-.18) and keep pretty good hits..with my production glock 34. A local master shooter/pistolsmith told me im shooting good, but my transitions suck..exact words.. I have been practicing some steel challenge stages in hopes that 5 to go will help me with faster transitions..anyways ill figure it out., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 i do believe i never had a split less than .3 in a match except for bad breath distances and speedshoots. Its consistency and great points that win matches. my humble opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockclimbg Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I had an interesting experience shooting toward the early evening hours a few months ago at an outdoor range. When it got dark enough to see the muzzle flash, my splits got a lot faster at close range. At 15 feet and less I usually am around .19-.22 but when seeing the muzzle flash, I saw a good number of .16-.18's and a single .14 all without "trying" (I know a bad word) to go fast. I didn't think my finger moved that fast!(stock glock 17 with WWB ammo.) I think it had something to do with seeing the muzzle flash and then shooting the soon as the flash was gone and I could see the target again. At least that's a theory. I always seem to get faster splits if I'm focusing on something visual (sights lifting, muzzle flash, etc.) If I just try to unload in a berm, trigger freeze and slow splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I think it had something to do with seeing the muzzle flash and then shooting the soon as the flash was gone and I could see the target again. At least that's a theory. I always seem to get faster splits if I'm focusing on something visual (sights lifting, muzzle flash, etc.) If I just try to unload in a berm, trigger freeze and slow splits. Shooting your vision is faster than shooting by your will. My fastest splits 10 or so .10-.11's in a row was the result of just watching the dot and pulling the trigger when the dot wsa in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 L2S: Do you think that it is possible to refine your index to the point that you could (not to say that you would/should) get the same splits and hits w/out using the front sight (Type 1 or Type 2 focus applied to multiple targets at moderately close range)? On single, close in targets I can do this. I've tried it on Bill Drills and El Presidente's and am much less sucessful. But don't know whether the lack of sucess is due to my humble skill level or that what I am trying to do is not a reasonable expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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