LarryP Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have Win Small Pistol Primers; plus 2 kinds of powder, but with everything being scarce the only bullets I have been able to buy are these 147 gr. Frontier (copper plated). I usually shoot a 121gr. Frontier (CP) Flat Nose with 4.12 TiteGroup, and a OAL of 1.111 (and plan to go back to it when 121 grs. are available again. The only information for a 147 gr. Cast or Copper Plated bullet I found is from Winchester Powders! They're starting grs. is 3.3 and Max is 3.5gr. The OAL recommended is 1.169”. I am hoping someone on "Brians Forum" has had good results with a 147gr. Copper plated or cast bullet and any of these powders, especially the W231. Thank You. P.S. I only shoot Production in Steel Matchs and my gun is G34 with a Lone Wolff barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ring Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Where did you find Frontier plated bullets? Their 9mm bullets worked well in my CZ when FMJ bullets were in short supply. Their .45acp 230gr round nose were also a very good revolver bullet. The standard load with Titegroup and 147gr bullets is 3.0 to 3.4gr. I used 3.3 gr of N-320 with 147gr Frontiers that were load quite short and had good (but not very good) accuracy. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman489 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=169917 heres a pdf I made w some 147's & 231(HP-38) as well as TG ... they were HP's though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryP Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Where did you find Frontier plated bullets? Their 9mm bullets worked well in my CZ when FMJ bullets were in short supply. Their .45acp 230gr round nose were also a very good revolver bullet. The standard load with Titegroup and 147gr bullets is 3.0 to 3.4gr. I used 3.3 gr of N-320 with 147gr Frontiers that were load quite short and had good (but not very good) accuracy. Chris I was lucky, walked into a local dealer bought 2 boxes. Thanks for your reply. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryP Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) http://www.brianenos...howtopic=169917 heres a pdf I made w some 147's & 231(HP-38) as well as TG ... they were HP's though... Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Your work is appreciated. I put 30 rounds together using 3.16gr. W231, and a OAL of 1.134 to 1.135. Tried them out this morning in my Stock Glock & Lone Wolff Barrels. No feeding problems, or FTE's. Satisfactory groups at 11 yards, only concern is expended shell casings are not going very far and in a couple of cases right on top of my slide. I lost track of my recoil spring is probably 13lbs. I think I'm going to add a little more powder and try this load in a Steel Match. Thanks again, Larry P Edited March 29, 2013 by LarryP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryP Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Final: 3.23 Win 231 OAL, 1.132, Win Small Pistol Primer. Glock 34 with Lone Wolff Barrel. Very smooth, & accurate. Chronograph at 793. PF 116. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryP Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Final: 3.23 Win 231 OAL, 1.132, Win Small Pistol Primer. Glock 34 with Lone Wolff Barrel. Very smooth, & accurate. Chronograph at 793. PF 116. Not fine with above...I had FTF's every 100 or so rounds. I had to to bump up the amount of win 231 to 3.40 gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleaay78 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I use 3.5gn of HP38 with a Bayou 147 or Berrys 147, OAL 1.150". Nice and soft, works well in a soft spring M&P and my 2011's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) My "go to" load back when I shot plated bullets was 3.0 gr of Titegroup with a Rainier 147 RN. OAL 1.140" Velocity was 865 fps out of a stock barrel G34. I used a 13 lb spring. I switched to lead bullets years ago. My wife uses a 160 gr lead bullet and Solo in her 17 and 34. Edited April 29, 2013 by Joe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES13Raven Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm also looking for load data for a Glock 34, Xtreme 147gr RN and Win 231 to make about 130 PF. I found this: Adding my load data from Glock 34 on a 40F day:147gr Plated RN @ 1.165" OAL.3.5gr W231, HI 897fps, LO 876fps, 10rd AV 890fps, PF 131.3.7gr W231, HI 945fps, LO 917fps, 10rd AV 930fps, PF 137.3.9gr W231, HI 981fps, LO 933fps, 10rd AV 955fps, PF 140. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Adding to the above.. (click to make more legible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPDGG Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=169917 heres a pdf I made w some 147's & 231(HP-38) as well as TG ... they were HP's though... Thank you "fireman489", I missed your post the first time. Very much appreciate the data/post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac_driver Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 G19 berry's 147 win cases OAL 1.15 W231 3.9gr avg. 922 SD 12.36 PF 136 note: you can drop powder to 3.7gr for your G34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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