Flexmoney Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 I don't know that I hate them... Seems to me that if you are "looking the mag in", like your suppose to do, then you don't need them. My gripe comes from the EGW magwells on my Caspian Open guns (they have a decent magwell built in). These magwells look like somebody tried to stipple them. I wonder what that does to the lips of the magazines??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 I cannot address the Caspian magwells, but having shot when all you got was the edge broken with a file, a big mag well is a huge improvement. I have seen Tommy Campbell and Mike Dalton fumble a mag change at the Nationals due to lack of big mag wells. When that happened, I don't think either of them was thinking about how it was effecting the lips on their mags. If your mag well opening is rough, smooth it with some crocus cloth on a slotted mandrel in your drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 11, 2002 Author Share Posted August 11, 2002 I think big magwells are for wussies. Furthermore...if a shooter fumbles a reload it is becasue he/she wasn't paying attention...likely trying to go too fast. (if I sound a bit gruff...well, it is my "hate" thread") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Kyle What did a big magwell do to you? I think if its an advantage for you on a racegun then go for it. Its racing. Although I would not have one on my carry gun. I feel if you are in a gunfight and have to reload then you are in a "world of sh--" and skills, tactics, whatever don't matter. Its probably luck by then and whatever happens happens. reloading .10 faster probably won't help. Not trying to argue. Just my 2 cents. I use a Krebs one of the smallest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Tilt that windmill, Flex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 tightloop, Just givin' ya a hard time for pissin' on my fire. I actually think the magwells are a fine idea. The guy that had my guns before me though...he really abused them. I just can't see missing the hole that much...that often. Makes me wonder how fast a reload goes if you get it just right...nothing but net. (In comparison to beating the thing in there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Nothin' but net. I was thinking last week how cool a perfect reload sounds, and "nothin but net" came to mind for me then, too. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 I agree. "Nothin but net" is the definition of a perfect reload. The mag well is for imperfect reloads. If you can reload below 1 sec you are on T Jarrets level. He never even used a big stick for years. He does now but still reloads real fast. He changed all of our techniques years ago. Maybe the guy that owned those guns was cross-eyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 If you are genuinely worried about the effect of big metal mag wells on your mag lips, try (if available for Caspain? don't know) a plastic one like from Krebbs, King, or others.... the side benfit to being softer on your mags, is that they ae very forgiving and "greasier" as you slide the mag into the well..... (thats why Dawson puts plastic in his "Ice" magwells now)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 Bill, When you and I stood in the rain, and failing daylight, and watched the big-dogs duke it out on that final stage in last year's Limited Nationals...I could have swore I saw TGO miss his reload. There was a flash of metal that didn't seem to be in the right place at the right time. Then I saw TJ do the same thing...and I realized what I had seen. They both had there reload mag at the gun...waiting...waiting...waiting...for the mag to drop out. (Steve Anderson...BTW, they were moving while reloading. Big Time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Yea they are real fast. Its perfect technique done real fast. I wish I had film of them. Especially shooting same stages that I shoot. The condition were horrible on that stage also. Dark and pouring rain. Next big match take a look at Todds magwell. Its pretty beat up. Not as bad as yours but he has been known to do a few reloads dryfiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Schwab Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 They both had there reload mag at the gun...waiting...waiting...waiting...for the mag to drop out. That's amazing...is it normal for GM's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 You have to wonder what is the sequence of events, when they are ready to do a mag change. Do they reach for the spare mag B4 they eject the empty, or do they eject and then reach for the spare, or do they do it simultaneously? Might make a difference in what you are seeing. Without asking directly, I don't think you could tell, it happens so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 I just hate they way they look. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 I'm with Kyle and Brian. Those things are sort of like bowling lanes with bumpers. A few times last month in Barry I saw Travis have his full mag a few inches from the mag well while the other one was dropping, inches away from the mag well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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