woodrow Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i've shot at least 6k precision bullets 147's with 3.0gr clays @ 1.125" out of a g34. gets 133pf with stock barrel and 135pf with kkm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Clays is made in Australia, as is International and Universal.... along with a mess of other extruded powders that are re-badged by Hodgdon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Clays is made in Australia, as is International and Universal.... along with a mess of other extruded powders that are re-badged by Hodgdon. Okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufDog Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thanks for all the great responses guys. Pinman, I appreciate your input. -Ruf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Thanks for all the great responses guys. Pinman, I appreciate your input. -Ruf Ruf - Been there done that, feels best with 147gr, but I suggest you check your accuracy, at the longest distance you may shoot, aka 50 yards for a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I worked up a load of 3.2gn CLAYS under a Berry's 124. It is absolutely stupid nice to shoot in my new spartan... Feeds perfectly, almost no recoil and I'm getting about a 4" group at 20 yards slightly supported. When I say no recoil, I mean it! If I knew how to post pics, I totally would show you a video but it looks like I'm shooting a 22. Knocks down steel no problem, but I haven't run it through a chrono yet. From what I've read, should be about 130PF. It's the nicest shooting load I know. I always use clays in 45 Major, since it seems to give a nice, soft push rather than a sharp bark in recoil. I recommend trying it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrow Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 what oal are you loading the 3.2gr/124gr combo to? cocobolo - very true, accuracy isn't exactly there for distance. it's great for the close stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Thanks for all the great responses guys. Pinman, I appreciate your input. -Ruf No problem boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'll have to check COL for you when I'm back in town. I did some loose accuracy checks, and was getting 2" groups at 7 yards unsupported and about 4" at 20 yards resting my arms on my hood. Not the most official testing procedure, but sure seems goodenough for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPIC24 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) It takes about 3.7 for Berrys 124s for me to push over 1008 fps. CZ Shadow Edited April 18, 2012 by KPIC24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddje Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 It takes about 3.7 for Berrys 124s for me to push over 1008 fps. CZ Shadow Agree. It takes me 3.6 and a warm day to make sure my Betty's 124 flat points make power in an mp pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDiver Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Clays is made in Australia, as is International and Universal.... along with a mess of other extruded powders that are re-badged by Hodgdon. Do you know what name they are sold or marketed under in Australia? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Made and Distributed as ADI (Australian Defence Industries) now owned by Thales (FRENCH) Essentially Clays is AS30. ADI AR2208 is what Hodgdon make Varget out of, that one is not quite the same. AR2209 is so close to H4350 to be able to interchange one with the other, similar but not exactly the same as IMR4350, do not interchange those two. IMR XBR8028 is Australian made, as is Trail Boss. 2213SC is H4831, 2207 is H4198, 2205 (floor sweepings in my Hornet) is H4227, AP70 is Universal. adi-limited.com.au is the website. You must be aware of batch variations more than anything, especially when working up hot loads. I have seen very hot loads with 2208 cause problems when the guy got a new batch which was just a shade faster burning. He was in all honesty just pushing it too far. All he got was a hole in the primer, but the black smudge around the outside of the first primer should have been a clue. Much of the ADI load data comes straight out of the Hodgdon Manual. You will not see it in the US, I am not sure if it is available outside NZ and Australia (if anyone knows better please correct). Rumour has it that Hodgdon is their biggest customer, Military next, then us way down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDiver Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 THANK YOU for the wealth of info. We are planning a trip to New Zeland next Feb for the IPSC Auckland shoot. Again Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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