Mark R Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Here's another I just came up with to use at my next match...enjoy. P32_StartWhereYouCan.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 that looks neat. I am ASSuming that was done with google sketch up. Just how hard is it or how long does it take to learn sketch up? It takes too long at the range to do the actual set up of the stage based off the diagrams I put together in MS Word. I am thinking it might actually be better for me/us to put the stages up at the range and then draw the diagrams based off of that. If it becomes too much of a hassle...IIRC, from when I have shot a few club matches at PASA Park, the WSB is just a piece of notebook paper handwritten "hands on X's, shoot 'em as you see 'em, X amount of rounds, Y amount of points" and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 You are correct Chills...google sketchup. Take a bit to understand and get used to using, but if you go through the tutorials up on Google Sketchup web site, it makes it a lot easier to learn. I have a sketchup templete posted on the forum here, and all I do is open it, drag props to spot I want them, rotate them if needed, and delete the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAB33 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Dig it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Tompkins Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Looks good, I'm ready to shoot it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Just how hard is it or how long does it take to learn sketch up? It took me designing 3 or 4 stages to feel comfortable in sketchup and now I can't imagine using anything else. There are a lot of sketchup users here (like Mark R) who are pretty free with advise and help while you're learning. I like being able to give people my printout and know that the stage they setup will actually resemble the stage I had in mind. Makes setup a lot easier when all I have to do is a minor tweak of the sightlines on match day! BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Nothing about the sketch which I like but for stacked targets you probably should have a hard cover break between targets to prevent an edge hit from scoring on both targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Yea...I usually put an upside down no-shoot as a divider on stacked targets...It works great. I just didn't go the effort to put one in sketchup...guess I'll do that now. Thanks LP! Good critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Nothing about the sketch which I like but for stacked targets you probably should have a hard cover break between targets to prevent an edge hit from scoring on both targets. Nice stage--might run it when the rains stop next year sometime. Is there any particular problem with an edge hit scoring on both targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 Not if the no-shoot has about 1-2 inch minimum from either shoot target. Without the no-shoot or hardcover between them, then you run into a edge-hit nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Here's a fix to the stacked target problem. I've added it to my template file and will update the template file in the Sketchup thread. I've added it to a new Template file in my Sketchup collection on Google Warehouse... ACCOUNT COLLECTION: DVCMarkR TITLE: USPSA Stage Design Template Edited November 20, 2011 by Mark R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Nothing about the sketch which I like but for stacked targets you probably should have a hard cover break between targets to prevent an edge hit from scoring on both targets. Nice stage--might run it when the rains stop next year sometime. Is there any particular problem with an edge hit scoring on both targets? Could be if a hit overlaps two scoring zones. In this case the front target was at the A zone of the back target. So a shot that hit the perf of the front and back targets would have scored on both. So if there was only say an A & D somewhere else, where did the other shot land? It's not a Mike because you have 4 scoring hits even though it was with only 3 shots. The revised drawing is one way, the other is to run a piece of black tape on the under target to create hardcover wide enough so a bullet can not score on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Here's another I just came up with to use at my next match...enjoy. i'll be using this one at out next (first Sat Feb '12) match. thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nothing about the sketch which I like but for stacked targets you probably should have a hard cover break between targets to prevent an edge hit from scoring on both targets. Put the bottom target upside down and leave a good 1/2" between the two targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here's another I just came up with to use at my next match...enjoy. i'll be using this one at out next (first Sat Feb '12) match. thanx! Feel free to... FYI...I had to remove the fault lines behind the front stacked targets. The lower target was a shoot through on the fault lines. To fix this...use a waist level off-limit lines keep competitors inside the shooting area. I briefed an imaginary line at walkthrough, but still had shooters wanting to go up in area where fault lines were removed to shoot top targets behind walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Adamson Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Mark, did you ever release the sketch to the 3d warehouse, just looked and couldn't find it from you? Would like to see it in sketchup if possible? Thanks, Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Mark, did you ever release the sketch to the 3d warehouse, just looked and couldn't find it from you? Would like to see it in sketchup if possible? Thanks, Alan Do a search now for DVCMarkR...it's in my collection now. Thought I put it up there earlier, but must have forgot. Putting some new ones up there too today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Adamson Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Deleted by author Edited January 28, 2012 by Alan Adamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StravIs09 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 start anywhere outside of fault lines, is that even a legal start position.? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) start anywhere outside of fault lines, is that even a legal start position.? haha Yep...FREESTYLE!!!! Edited to add: It allows the shooter to solve the start. Edited February 15, 2012 by Mark R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yep, legal for WSB to state the start position as being outside the shooting area. At least the USPSA interpretation of things. I've not done any personal research, but as was being explained to me by some Canadian brethren, one of the IPSC interpretations was that if there was a shooting area the start position also had to be inside the shooting area. But then that was also in relation to the older rules that used to included "charge lines". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We ran one almost identical to this stage the first w/end of this month. A GM in limited ran it just over 15sec. It's a cool stage. Most everyone started on the right, outside the box. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I ran the stage posted above in 15.93 with 8.6 HF. I'm only a B class open shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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