EurAzn12 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 My buddy's only "rifle" is an mp5 and he'd like to try out 3 gun... as long as he doesn't throw it over to full auto I assume it'd be legal in some division right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 hed have to look at the individual matches, some three gun matches are pretty short range affairs, basically pistol matches with a carbine division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EurAzn12 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 I'm thinking it'd only be useful for closer range matches, or IDPA DMG matches where distances would be closer. There's a close match to where I live that only allows pistol caliber rifles too so that'd be a start. I heard one guy used his carbine for rifle and pistol since it was chambered in 9mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 One match that I regularly shoot would allow him to use a "pistol caliber carbine", but requires three hits per paper target to neutralize. So technically, he could use it in this particular match, but he would be at a disadvantage. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I believe the USPSA rules specifically ban anything with a happy switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I believe the USPSA rules specifically ban anything with a happy switch. Anything with a selector switch is good to go. (safe, semi, burst/auto) If full-auto or burst is the only firing option, then it wouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 tell your buddy I will happily trade him his silly mp5 for a nice AR, 3 gun shot gun, pistol, and small bag of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EurAzn12 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 tell your buddy I will happily trade him his silly mp5 for a nice AR, 3 gun shot gun, pistol, and small bag of cash. haha he laughed at that.. his HK21 just got finished being built too... the luxuries of being from Nevada I s'pose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I believe the USPSA rules specifically ban anything with a happy switch. Last I remember, machineguns are legal as long as they're on semi only. On full auto, I recall it's a procedural per occurrence meaning you can actually shoot full auto; you'd just zero the stage. I'm sure the rules in USPSA have changed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-10_shooter Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I believe the USPSA rules specifically ban anything with a happy switch. Last I remember, machineguns are legal as long as they're on semi only. On full auto, I recall it's a procedural per occurrence meaning you can actually shoot full auto; you'd just zero the stage. I'm sure the rules in USPSA have changed though. That would be so worth it, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) That would be so worth it, haha They changed it: "Should a competitor shoot at a target or targets with burst or fully automatic fire (where more than one shot is discharged with one manipulation of the trigger), he will be scored zero and a warning issued. In the event of another infraction he will be disqualified from the match." I used to have a thing for full auto but the truth is, it's possible to get 550-600 RPM on semi-auto with the bonus of being able to do it accurately. Sometimes it seems like 00Bullitt has a 2-round burst on his rifle and after seeing Clint Upchurch do this the other day @ 1:02 - I'd say that $600 for a rack grade AR-15 is enough to shoot fast: Edited May 30, 2011 by DyNo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 On full auto, I recall it's a procedural per occurrence meaning you can actually shoot full auto; you'd just zero the stage. Wouldn't "once per occurrence" just be one procedural per stage? After all, you are only switching to F/A once. Now if you were to switch between F/A and S/A and back, then you would have multiple occurrences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THM7 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I am sure he will have it in semi.......if the match has some long range then throw a round at it. Take the miss......and move on. I shoot one of my SMG at our local matches after I go thru with my AR.....depending on the stage the subgun (full auto) can be faster than the AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) I shoot one of my SMG at our local matches after I go thru with my AR.....depending on the stage the subgun (full auto) can be faster than the AR. The part in red is what is going to dictate which type of gun is going to have the advantage. (I'm assuming a subgun here that is slow enough to get at least doubles by just trigger manipulation. If you're running something one of the high-speed bullet hoses like an unmodified M11/9, you're going to be doing extra reloads.) I've run a number of USPSA stages with a subgun. Granted, they were nearly all "pistol" stages, run with a subgun. I often do better with my Open Division pistol than I do with the subgun. (I generally do better with the pistol than a semi-auto carbine too, likely for the same reasons). Quick doubles with a subgun are good. But if you are swinging between widely-spaced targets, the pistol generally transitions faster. Mag changes are generally faster with the pistol as well, even when using something with the magwell in the grip like an Uzi (magwell out front like an M16/9mm or MP5 is slower). OTOH, I do tend to shoot / practice with the pistol more, so that may have something to do with it as well. Edited June 6, 2011 by Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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