Duane Thomas Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 I'm currently running my Glock 34 with a 13-pound Wolff after-market recoil spring and steel guide rod. Unfortunately this set-up is illegal for IDPA since a replacement guide rod has to be made of the same material as the original factory part, in this case polymer. Question: does anyone make a replacement guide rod that will work with the after-market springs AND is made of polymer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 DT, You could do like everyone else and take the nub off the front of the Glock OEM rod. Then put on whatever spring you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 DT,You could do like everyone else and take the nub off the front of the Glock OEM rod. Then put on whatever spring you like. Or you could be different like me, and shoot ESP with the steel guiderod.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 DT, If the 34 is like my 19, a hole runs down the center of the rod. You can use a piece of stiff wire to push the spring retainer out from the back via that hole. The upshot is that if you're careful, you can re-snap the retainer back in. Unless you're putting in a Tungsten guide rod, there's really little reason to deviate from the $6 factory guide rod system. Hope that helps, E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34-Driver Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Same as above, except I just pull the plug out of the end with a pair of plier's or dykes. If you look at the end of the guide rod, you will see where the seperation is at. I run a 13lb ISMI spring minus 4 coils and I've never had a problem. I never thought about putting the plug back in, so I just pull it out w/o damaging the guide rod. I'm really looking forward to see if Tom Novak's magwell will fit in the IDPA Box. I think it would be a good setup for ESP with a steel magwell and a full length steel guide rod. FWIW..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRG65 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I tried to push the plug out and found it was way to much problem, and for me the pliers mangled the nub too badly to put back. So since I wanted to keep it full length including the nub, I ground the nub portion to the same diameter as the rest of the guide rod. Then I went back to shooting the stock recoil assembly because I liked the more positive return I got with the stock spring over the lighter springs. Ya gotta try it to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34-Driver Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 If you don't mind shooting with an uncaptured guide rod, I think using dykes is the easiest as far as removing the plug. Just put the dykes (with light pressure) into the groove where the plug meets the guide rod and pull. It should come right out, w/o any damage. I've shot an uncaptured stock guide rod w/o any problems for many thousands of rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 The problem with that approach is that a standard coil spring will snake around on the small diameter stock rod. I want a guide rod sized for a music wire spring, not the Glock flat spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRG65 Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 My wife uses a Wolffe spring on the standard polymer guide rod, no problems. Bill Nesbitt and his wife both use them in their 17's on the stock guide rods, again no problems. Don't be concerned about the size difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Duane, I've had good luck with ISMI 13lb. springs with a few coils trimmed in running my 17 and 34 with 135 PF 147 gr. loads reliably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34-Driver Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Hey Duane, Just like Nik stated above, I run a 13lb ISMI spring minus 4 coils in a G34 and G17 with a Glock uncaptured rod at approx. 128PF and I've never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Okay, maybe it's just me, but the feel of that much-larger-than-guide-rod diameter spring snaking around on the narrow stock guide rod just drives me nuts and really gives a strange feel to the slide stroke. What can I say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I have heard that they will run without a guide rod....just a spring. Something the chew on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Duane, I currently use the stock recoil rod minus the nub on the end for IDPA SSP in a G35. I use a Wolff 12#. Currently a year on this setup with not a single failure. I don't think there is anything to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 The plug is pretty easy to remove and replace. I use a long shank drill bit and just tap it out, insert the spring and tap the plug back in with a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 18, 2004 Author Share Posted April 18, 2004 Okay, the ol' 40-watter finally popped. Checked the ISMI web site, they produce flat wire springs in various weights for Glocks. I was stuck in Wolff mode and thought only music wire springs were available from anyone. Sounds like I need to call up ISMI. "You live and learn, or you don't live long." - Lazarus Long via Robert Anson Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Duane, that just means that we either didn't explain it very well --- or that we assumed from reading your articles that there was very little you don't already have a passing familiarity with... (Patrick Sweeney mode on: And here I thought it was that Wolff was supplying you with FREE springs... Patrick Sweeney Mode off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 See? That's why I need you guys. To teach me the things I don't know. Called up ISMI this morning. A 13-pound recoil spring is on its way. Thanks, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotm4 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I'm currently running my Glock 34 with a 13-pound Wolff after-market recoil spring and steel guide rod. Unfortunately this set-up is illegal for IDPA since a replacement guide rod has to be made of the same material as the original factory part, in this case polymer. Question: does anyone make a replacement guide rod that will work with the after-market springs AND is made of polymer? If you can find an armorer with an original G17 recoil rod it would be good too. They were originally a non captured polymer rod. I had a G19 that was that way. It had a much stronger spring flat recoil spring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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