TRUbor9 Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I want to try loading some 9mm major's with bl-c2 and i was just wondering if anyone has tried this yet? I will start very low and work the load up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 BLC-2 from Hodgdon? The rifle powder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too_Slow Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Way too slow, you would never be able to make major with it. Chances are you may not make minor with it. I just checked the Hodgdon 'Burn Rate' chart and the powders that most are using fall between 40th and 56th on the chart while Bl-c2 is at 102 on the chart. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Way too slow, you would never be able to make major with it. Chances are you may not make minor with it. I just checked the Hodgdon 'Burn Rate' chart and the powders that most are using fall between 40th and 56th on the chart while Bl-c2 is at 102 on the chart. Brian Blc(2) is good powder for .223 Rem with 55gr FMHBT 27.1gr. I suggest you skip to the #1 powder Silhouette or #2 HS6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 well thanks for the feed back I'm using AC now and was thinking it would put out an amazing amount of gas for the comp! thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) well thanks for the feed back I'm using AC now and was thinking it would put out an amazing amount of gas for the comp! thanks anyway TruBor9 - 7.0gr of Autocomp is not bad at all, it is close to Silhouette and HS6 in my guns, very slight difference in the smoothness of the flip aka easier dot tracking with Silhouette, this will vary in each gun configuration. On the slow side AA#7 or 3N38, and I've heard of some running N105 but have not tried it. Edited April 9, 2011 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Use rifle powder for rifle ammo and pistol powder for pistol ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 Matt Burkett is having me try some ramshot Silhouette loads but from this gun I like the not so BIGEFFINGBANG of AC. The Silhouette loads haven't even been loaded to major yet and the blast would give you a concussion and, if shooting through a barrel, may blow the stage to pieces XD just my opinion but i'll try it again tomorrow. thats the gun and a close-up of the comp, it's extremly light but the AET barrel gets 40fps faster than my trubor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 and i use 7.15 grs of AC at OAL-1.20 with a MG 124JHP and a hard crimp to hold it in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 and i use 7.15 grs of AC at OAL-1.20 with a MG 124JHP and a hard crimp to hold it in there That's not a mistake? Really, seated out to 1.20" OAL? In a 9mm? And they don't fall out? I've gone to 1.18, and that's not much bullet in the case. 1.20 seems very long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) Matt Burkett is having me try some ramshot Silhouette loads but from this gun I like the not so BIGEFFINGBANG of AC. The Silhouette loads haven't even been loaded to major yet and the blast would give you a concussion and, if shooting through a barrel, may blow the stage to pieces XD just my opinion but i'll try it again tomorrow. thats the gun and a close-up of the comp, it's extremly light but the AET barrel gets 40fps faster than my trubor. These things make noise? Naw, once you have shot open guns for a while, you won't even hear the bang or feel the concusion, you are in the Zen mode, like a slow motion silent movie. Try double plugging, if you are paying attention to the noise and blast then you need to double plug, that is ear plugs, and I hate those things, makes me feel like I have a brain tumor then the muffs. Silhouette with SPP is 7.7gr w/124/125 RN @ 1.165. That is hot weather load, in the winter below 50 drop it 1 or 2 tenths. HS6 is a lot louder! I remeber that from when I first started open. Have you heard of Loud Shot I mean Long Shot. I started with a Gold Team V8, 8 holes of blast and noise, everything since has been tame by comparison. Open guys tend to search for the magic, find a load that you are comfortable shooting, check the accuracy and if it works shoot the snot out of it! In my guns I can run HS6, AutoComp, or Silhouette comfortably so what ever I have I load it up and shoot it. Edited April 9, 2011 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 I know they're loud HAHA but the AC through the wraith is just way more comfortable to me but if i can get my hands on some Silhouette or HS6 back home I'll deffinatly try it. So I'm guessing that Silhouette burns faster as it gets colder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hello: Try some HS-6 and it will produce lots of gas. It is not dirty if you run the power factor up to 171-173. Cleans up easily and is very temp stable. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Well i tried Matt's Silhouette loads, 8.5 with a MG 115 on top of it... the crap brass we were using was letting primers blow out all over the place but IF i can get my hands on some at home I'll try it it was fairly soft and not as bad today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Hello: You may want to try some rifle primers or magnum primers. I was loading Silhouette up to 9.1 grains wirth MG 115's in my shorty 9mm. In the 5" it is 179.4PF. Your lot of powder may be different than mine. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorDanO Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Try some 115's with Autocomp. It's a lot flatter than the 124's. I'm running 7.6gr behind MG JHP's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) I am loading 115 gr and 121 gr JHPs with Silhouette in my open guns and never noticed it being louder than any other powder I have used. Both guns shoot very flat and the dot tracks straight up and down never leaving the lens on the C-More. I load 7.8 gr with 121s and 8.0 gr with 115s at 1.165 OAL, with Win SRPs. Edited April 10, 2011 by Jaxshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Hello: You may want to try some rifle primers or magnum primers. I was loading Silhouette up to 9.1 grains wirth MG 115's in my shorty 9mm. In the 5" it is 179.4PF. Your lot of powder may be different than mine. Thanks, Eric They were Winchester SR but the brass was crap we got for almost free it would have been fine in newer stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 and i use 7.15 grs of AC at OAL-1.20 with a MG 124JHP and a hard crimp to hold it in there That's not a mistake? Really, seated out to 1.20" OAL? In a 9mm? And they don't fall out? I've gone to 1.18, and that's not much bullet in the case. 1.20 seems very long? works just fine with hard enough crimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenDot Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 and i use 7.15 grs of AC at OAL-1.20 with a MG 124JHP and a hard crimp to hold it in there That's not a mistake? Really, seated out to 1.20" OAL? In a 9mm? And they don't fall out? I've gone to 1.18, and that's not much bullet in the case. 1.20 seems very long? works just fine with hard enough crimp yeah I was supprised as well when you showed me that loaded round Shot really nice though and the gun seemed flat and soft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUbor9 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) Ya for me the AC is flater softer and cleaner than the Silhouette loads and I've got 8 pounds of it to load up XD I might use HS6 for steel with a 95gr bullet but I have 10000+ 124's to load first and maybe its just that I've used the AC since I started in open... Edited April 13, 2011 by TRUbor9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenDot Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 ya for me the AC is flater softer and cleaner than the Silhouette loads. and I've got 8pounds of it to load up XD I might use HS6 for steel with a 95gr bullet but I have 10000+ 124's to load first if you need help with those 124's...send me 1000 or so for thursday night so I'll have some ammo for the new blaster!! lmfao I may just be walking around the range thursday beggin people for 9 major ammo with my hand out and a sign... hahahahahaa "will pick up your brass and reset your stage for 29 rounds of open 9 major ammo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansheex Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was just looking in my Lyman's manual and it said for a 125gr jhp 4.5grs of Bullseye, with a 1.075 OAL Does that sound right? The OAL seems short! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I was just looking in my Lyman's manual and it said for a 125gr jhp 4.5grs of Bullseye, with a 1.075 OAL Does that sound right? The OAL seems short! That would be fine for a "normal" gun like a Glock or something. In all reality when it comes to 9mm major, there is nothing in a reloading manual that is going to be applicable at all. Most 9mm open guns are 2011 platform guns, which will accept much longer OAL ammo and will run more reliably with longer ammo as well. And as far as powder charges, you'll never see anything in a manual that even approaches 9mm major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansheex Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Understood, it just seems short. I load a 1.14 to 1.18 for my XDM open gun. Seems to work well. If I ever get back to work, I want a 2011 platform gun. Thanks Edited April 14, 2011 by Bansheex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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