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So, today I decide to change the oil in my Ford Explorer. The last time I had the oil changed, I took it to a shop to have it done because I did not have time. So, today, I drive it up on the ramps and get everything together to start. As I go to get the socket on the drain plug, I see that it is completely rounded off. I mean royally screwed-up. SO, off to the parts store to by another (I wanted to make sure I could get a replacement before I screwed this one up more trying to get it off). Vise-grips and pounding on it will a hammer finally got it free. After I replace the filter I go back to put the drain plug in. I wipe the residual oil off and see that someone had cross-threaded the threads in the oil pan and in an effort to cover up, repaired it with a heli-coil kit. :angry2::angry2: I was never told that this happened when I took it to have the oil changed.....

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BTDT.

Had a dumb-assed monkey with an impact wrench (!) reinstall my drain plug after an oil change. Rounded the head off and stripped the Hell out of it. The leak he caused around the plug was my first clue.

Grrr....

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It's not their car, why should they care? He got paid and got to go home at 5:00. The whole "taking pride in your work" thing is outdated.

Yesterday I listened to the front desk guy argue with an "adjuster" about the time for some work being done on my work vehicle. The initial estimate apparently showed 7 hours and the fleet management folks only wanted to pay for 6. They finally agreed to 6 hours. As I left I asked when they thought it'd be finished. "Oh it should take about 5 hours, so we'll be calling you at XX o'clock". I wish I'd said something but I was gone by the time I put it all together.

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So, today I decide to change the oil in my Ford Explorer. The last time I had the oil changed, I took it to a shop to have it done because I did not have time. So, today, I drive it up on the ramps and get everything together to start. As I go to get the socket on the drain plug, I see that it is completely rounded off. I mean royally screwed-up. SO, off to the parts store to by another (I wanted to make sure I could get a replacement before I screwed this one up more trying to get it off). Vise-grips and pounding on it will a hammer finally got it free. After I replace the filter I go back to put the drain plug in. I wipe the residual oil off and see that someone had cross-threaded the threads in the oil pan and in an effort to cover up, repaired it with a heli-coil kit. :angry2::angry2: I was never told that this happened when I took it to have the oil changed.....

A lot of facilities pay their oil change people virtually nothing. They get what they pay for and have a ton of turnover. I have 4 guys that do basic service and together they have several decades of experience, oh and they get paid well.

Helicoil? It would be extremely difficult to install a helicoil, not to mention require much more skill than doing an oil change. Some vehicles have a steel insert in the aluminum pan from the factory. You sure that's not the case?

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So, today I decide to change the oil in my Ford Explorer. The last time I had the oil changed, I took it to a shop to have it done because I did not have time. So, today, I drive it up on the ramps and get everything together to start. As I go to get the socket on the drain plug, I see that it is completely rounded off. I mean royally screwed-up. SO, off to the parts store to by another (I wanted to make sure I could get a replacement before I screwed this one up more trying to get it off). Vise-grips and pounding on it will a hammer finally got it free. After I replace the filter I go back to put the drain plug in. I wipe the residual oil off and see that someone had cross-threaded the threads in the oil pan and in an effort to cover up, repaired it with a heli-coil kit. :angry2::angry2: I was never told that this happened when I took it to have the oil changed.....

A lot of facilities pay their oil change people virtually nothing. They get what they pay for and have a ton of turnover. I have 4 guys that do basic service and together they have several decades of experience, oh and they get paid well.

Helicoil? It would be extremely difficult to install a helicoil, not to mention require much more skill than doing an oil change. Some vehicles have a steel insert in the aluminum pan from the factory. You sure that's not the case?

If the insert is threaded, then if could that. You can clearly see the where the threads change and there definitely is a different in the size of the thread on the oil pan and this "helicoil" looking part. The end of the "helicoil" looking part is not flush, it looks like the end of a coil. If it is an insert that has shifted, it has moved inward toward the engine rather than outward. This was a shop that I had go ahead and change the oil while they were replacing a cracked exhaust manifold. They guy told me that a bolt broke off in the block and they had to tap it and use a helicoil on it.

Now I have to change the EGR valve on it. Guy told me it would cost $700 to do it. :angry2::surprise: So, I am going to do that myself if I can find decent directions. The new Chiltons books aren't worth a flip.

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Jack,

Ask the shop to fix what they did. Garagekeepers insurance for them should cover the damages . . . .

In NC, the person who cuts your hair has to have a license . . . but the person working on cars, big trucks, and key safety related items in cars and trucks can be the moron criminal just out of prison . . . .

Not all shops are like that, of course.

Hope it works out ok . . .

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So, today I decide to change the oil in my Ford Explorer. The last time I had the oil changed, I took it to a shop to have it done because I did not have time. So, today, I drive it up on the ramps and get everything together to start. As I go to get the socket on the drain plug, I see that it is completely rounded off. I mean royally screwed-up. SO, off to the parts store to by another (I wanted to make sure I could get a replacement before I screwed this one up more trying to get it off). Vise-grips and pounding on it will a hammer finally got it free. After I replace the filter I go back to put the drain plug in. I wipe the residual oil off and see that someone had cross-threaded the threads in the oil pan and in an effort to cover up, repaired it with a heli-coil kit. :angry2::angry2: I was never told that this happened when I took it to have the oil changed.....

A lot of facilities pay their oil change people virtually nothing. They get what they pay for and have a ton of turnover. I have 4 guys that do basic service and together they have several decades of experience, oh and they get paid well.

Helicoil? It would be extremely difficult to install a helicoil, not to mention require much more skill than doing an oil change. Some vehicles have a steel insert in the aluminum pan from the factory. You sure that's not the case?

If the insert is threaded, then if could that. You can clearly see the where the threads change and there definitely is a different in the size of the thread on the oil pan and this "helicoil" looking part. The end of the "helicoil" looking part is not flush, it looks like the end of a coil. If it is an insert that has shifted, it has moved inward toward the engine rather than outward. This was a shop that I had go ahead and change the oil while they were replacing a cracked exhaust manifold. They guy told me that a bolt broke off in the block and they had to tap it and use a helicoil on it.

Now I have to change the EGR valve on it. Guy told me it would cost $700 to do it. :angry2::surprise: So, I am going to do that myself if I can find decent directions. The new Chiltons books aren't worth a flip.

Soak the bolts/nuts/fittings with KROIL on the EGR for a couple hours.

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BTDT.

Had a dumb-assed monkey with an impact wrench (!) reinstall my drain plug after an oil change. Rounded the head off and stripped the Hell out of it. The leak he caused around the plug was my first clue.

Grrr....

Isn't the impact wrench to cars as the dremel tool is to guns? :rolleyes:

I had a shop damage a wheel and tire taking my car to lunch (another problem I have with garages). They then balanced it out and didn't tell me. Damage was on the inside of the rim.

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I had a shop damage a wheel and tire taking my car to lunch (another problem I have with garages).

We had a local LE get a ticket in the mail from a Denver area PD on his nearly new Mustang a year or so ago. This is about an 8 hour drive each way from our town during a period of time when his car was in the dealers shop over a weekend getting a few options added.

Long story short, I understand they had to hire a new Service Manager not too much later.

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