Duane Thomas Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Ah, I missed the 686 part. Yeah, the Smith & Wesson warranty station fixed the gun for free by installing a brand-new barrel. But after that I got rid of it. I wish I'd kept it - it would've made a great .38. Just out of curiousity, have you tried any of the 110-gr. .357s? You might be surprised how mild they are compared to full-bore 125s and 158s. According to a ballistician I talked to, with such a lightweight bullet they can't build enough pressure for super-high velocities before the bullet's gone. Which is why the 110-gr. .357 and .38 +P+s overlap. Though the .357/110 isn't marketed as such, it's really a "medium velocity" .357 load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 I'll take a look at the 110 357's next chance I get. The main reason I carry the +P+ 38s is, well, I have about 7 boxes of it. Do all the ammo manufaturers make that loading, or only a select few? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 I'm going to hazard a guess you've got Cor-Bon, right? Many ammo companies produce the .38 +P+ stuff, though most of them restrict it to law enforcement sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phara Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Bill, or others, You mentioned that there were only 3 or 4 speedloader revolver shooters at the nationals. Just out of curiosity what revolver do most IDPA revolver competitors shoot? Does one gun seem to dominate? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I'm not sure what Alex Zimmerman shot but, most top finishing competitors that I have seen use S&W 625's. It's not so much the reload as it is they are using a great big bullet, that only has to make a 125 PF. Most of the ones I see go poof instead of bang. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 AZ used a 625....and quite well, I might add. H. Jasper also shoots a 625 (and fast). Good job in KY HJ! Good talking to you in TN. Hey BILL, he said to tell you hello also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCorbon Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 Like my friend Bill, I also made Master class with speedloaders. I used a 4" 686 though. It just fits my hand way too good. I will be trying a 625 at the match at the Winter Campionships at S&W and the Nationals in 03. I am getting my ammo worked up so I don't have to use full power 45s like I've done in the past. I will make power factor plus 10%. I've always shot full power 45 ammo in the 625 in the past. I'm hoping that with what I save in reloading with moon clips and also with the wimpy ammo, I'll try and make a run for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phara Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 I shoot a 625 for USPSA and have been using 230 grain bullets with Clay's at major power factor. Has anyone had success with using these at the low power factors we can use for IDPA or should I use a smaller grain bullet? Thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 I've found that 230's loaded down feel too poofy, and prefer 200 rn's loaded to about a 140-145 PF. Stiffer than 130, but I like the feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 S'funny. You'd think the wimp ammo would be the ticket. I tried some 255-gr. bullets loaded to about 650 fps in .45 ACP. I couldn't stand it. It's like Todd Jarrett said, "If the gun's not alive in my hands, I can't shoot it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phara Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Thanks. I was hoping that all I would have to change is the powder measure when switching from major to minor loads. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCorbon Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 I tried the wimp ammo thing at Second Chance on the 9 pin event and it seemed to be okay. I'll see how I like it in a revolver. Might just go back to the 686! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billboy Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 I’ve only been shooting revolvers a couple of years after several years of 1911 fun so I’m far from being a revolver expert. Sense I started shooting revolvers I’ve played with speedloader guns in the form of either a 586 or 19, both are 4”, while my moon clip guns have been 625s (a 5” until recently and now a 4”). My split and reload times run about the same with either set up, but I still lean towards the 625s anyway for a couple of reasons. The first is that, for me anyway, I do not always get all the brass out of the chambers all the time when reloading a speedloader gun. Maybe this is just something I’m doing wrong, but it sure does bug me. While with a moon clip I never have this problem. The other thing is that I like the way the big N frame recoils in my hand. My IDPA load runs right on 165 PF and even it feels soft in the 625. Even my 174 PF IPSC load feels soft in that gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Revo Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 S&W .38 Super x 6-shot Model 686 with Moonclips will be available in the spring. It will be shown at the SHOT Show. Perfect IDPA revolver for those shooters that prefer a smaller frame gun and can shoot factory W-W for the match or reload for the power factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Quote: from Tom Revo on 11:31 pm on Jan. 30, 2003 S&W .38 Super x 6-shot Model 686 with Moonclips will be available in the spring. It will be shown at the SHOT Show. Perfect IDPA revolver for those shooters that prefer a smaller frame gun and can shoot factory W-W for the match or reload for the power factor. guess it will have the internal lock and MIM parts though. ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTibbets Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 DogmaDog, The Wilson S&W model 66 did not accept full moon clips. The reason they quite production was because they lost the Smith' buiding them, I opened my own Custom shop. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Quote: from Tom Revo on 11:31 pm on Jan. 30, 2003 S&W .38 Super x 6-shot Model 686 with Moonclips will be available in the spring. It will be shown at the SHOT Show. Perfect IDPA revolver for those shooters that prefer a smaller frame gun and can shoot factory W-W for the match or reload for the power factor. that gun is on smith's web page now, under the "what's new" section. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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