scap99 Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 None that my untrained eyes can see. Side by side, the fired and unfired primers look the same. Except for the deep dent from the firing pin, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomfab Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) My new containers of Solo 1000 are really weak. I had to bump my load from 4.2gr using 124 MG HP, to 4.8gr. I'm at about 135 PF. It's compressed and runs soft as ever though. Edited August 24, 2010 by boomfab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scap99 Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 shot some of these loads at 25 and 50 yds free hand yesterday. I've never shot at either of these ranges before, so was pretty pleased with my performance. Here's my 50 yd target with 7 (6 on the plate and one flyer that was not included in this cropped shot) 9mm holes made by me. The .22 cal holes were already there, I just didn't bother to paste them. The 25 yd target had much better groupings. Moving from my standard 15 yds to 25 yds was pretty easy. 25 to 50 was a whole different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I've been trying to load some "defensive" velocity practice loads with some old 125gr Zero JHPs I have around. I loaded 4.2 gr because it was "more" than my 3.5gr load for 147gr lead... SOFT. Then I read here... 4.5gr barely made Minor... To get up to defensive velocities of 120fps with a 125gr bullet... I don't think solo will get there!!! No pressure signs as high as 4.8gr. M&P9 COMPACT 3" barrel at 90 degrees in FL. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Wow; you folks are needing 4.8gr of Solo 1000 to make Minor with 124gr bullets!! That seems like a lot of powder considering that I only need 3.6gr of this powder to make 132PF with 147gr FMJ bullets. How come the 124's require so much more powder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Wow; you folks are needing 4.8gr of Solo 1000 to make Minor with 124gr bullets!! That seems like a lot of powder considering that I only need 3.6gr of this powder to make 132PF with 147gr FMJ bullets. How come the 124's require so much more powder? Pressure = force / area 147s take up a lot more "area," especially when loaded short. I'm not sure I'd cram 4.8 into a 9mm case, though. I hope my new jug of Solo isn't that slow. 4.6 made major in .40 with a 180 with my old jug...out of a 5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Pressure = force / area 147s take up a lot more "area," especially when loaded short. I'm not sure I'd cram 4.8 into a 9mm case, though. I hope my new jug of Solo isn't that slow. 4.6 made major in .40 with a 180 with my old jug...out of a 5". That's my experience too. I had to use 4.5gr of S1000 behind a 185gr Precision Moly bullet to get to 171PF (OAL 1.185"). I will start at 3.8gr for my 124gr Precision Delta JHP and load from there. I hope I don't have to go as high as 4.8gr; that's a lot of powder in that little case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Pardon my ignorance, but is Solo 1000 a particularly bulky powder? I've been using 6.7 gr of HS-6 (will be switching to Titegroup soon), so 4.8 gr doesn't seem like too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAP Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yes. 4.8 gr is pretty much spilling out of a 9mm case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) I loaded and chronoed some rounds and here are my results: Edited December 2, 2010 by Cy Soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) One thing missing, the lot number of your jug of Solo 1000. The 1,379.8 variance of your 4.8 gr load looks a bit high. Edited December 2, 2010 by Tom E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 One thing missing, the lot number of your jug of Solo 1000. The 1,379.8 variance of your 4.8 gr load looks a bit high. The lot number is 1877 and all rounds were shot through a CZ SP-01. You are right about the variance. I am trying to figure out if I have a problem with my formula but I haven't been able to find it yet. There was one shot there that messed everything up (1,054 FPS) but I am certain that I wrote it down correctly. I don't know what may have caused this either but I am sure that this is the reason for this extreme figure in the variance. If I discount that number I have an ES of 18.00; and SD of 7.59 and a variance of 57.6 for an average PF of 140.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Good thing the chrono saved this particular string... It turns out that I was wrong after all (my wife would say: "what a surprise" ). That figure that I was so adamant that I had it right turned out to be 1,154 after all. I have edited my previous post with a new table that reflects this change. Sorry for the confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 What Primer? How do they look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 What Primer? How do they look? I used Federal SPP. I couldn't see any significant flattening up to 4.6gr. The 4.7gr & 4.8gr did show a bit of flattening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torogi Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Cy, thanks for this data. I know its old. But better than me working on a new load.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlspeed Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Yup, thanks from here as well. I'm pretty confident I'm going to need 4.8g in my 115 "funzie" loads just to make 1100 fps. I think next time I'm buying 124g, and setting it at 4.7g instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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