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The vortex venoms are a nice cheaper option that have held up to beating pretty well and have a decently large window. They are also fairly easy to turn on and off

10 yards for me. Usually only use it for very close in paper so I didn’t want to deal with holdovers. Rarely would ever consider using the offset past 20-25 yards

Will do - thanks for the tip!

@Sarge do you have any idea where I could find an MRH? I PM'd around here and haven't heard much

PM'd - Thanks!

@ziebart I lost a belt a few years ago at MN Tri Gun on a stage..I was using a Safariland belt and I had previously thought that the velcro wasn't as good as it should have been or maybe that was due to the number of attachment holes on the belt. I ended up using a DAA belt that I drilled individual holes for where I wanted ELS mounts. It was ridiculous and isn't very adaptive but it seems to hold a lot better especially on long stages with 50 shells on my belt. Anyways, good tip and thank you!

@Blockader & @usmc1094 Thank you friends. That is what I was going to try next. Thanks so much. Also playing with an FSTactical mag pouch to run a horizontal mag in the front. Trying everything to get it right. Thanks!!

Question for those of you who have attached ELS clips directly to a magazine, how has that worked and do you have any tips? I got a few magazines so that I would have some to play with and modify. I have one magazine that I attached an ELS fork to directly but am getting SLIGHT interference on the inside with the magazine spring and I am worried that it will fail at the exact wrong time...any tips would be appreciated. I would love the idea of getting this to work but as a backup I will try the magazine pouches from FSTactical or the Dissident clips they sell. Thanks!

FWIW I was notified that my gun will be ready around May 19. I ordered with the Veterans Day special so that will mark 28 weeks I believe.

I did! I think I purchased on a holiday and they were offering 2 free barrels so I just got all the 9mm barrels. Excited to try out a few different configs

I think maybe they are referring to 9 minor? I know when I spoke to Casey 2 years or so ago they were hesitant about doing 9 minor open guns. FWIW, I’ll be shooting 3gun so will be shooting minor pf

Thanks for the answers you guys! I ordered back in November and haven't heard anything since the order date so maybe I will go ahead and give them a call. I will say my SV took nearly 18 months a few years ago so ~7 months seems easy at this point. @Robertwil18 Those look awesome! Congrats!

Apologies for opening this back up but has anyone gotten a Honcho shipped lately? Trying to get a feel for where the lead times are right now. Are they still hovering around that 7 months timeframe? Thanks!

That is sort of what I figured and I kind of want to give it a try. Most guys I know shooting this platform shoot a micro dot like a razor/dpp/etc and there’s probably a pretty good reason for it aside from them being sponsored/paid shooters. Thanks for the tip!

Thanks @inertia and @Blockader again. Great points. I currently shoot an SVI 5.4" SightTracker that I use in TacOps and LOVE it. It has, god, somewhere near 40k-50k rounds through it now? It has been fantastic. I am waiting (not patiently) on a Honcho and I will be playing with both the slide mounted with single port comp as well as the frame mounted with the single port comp - MAYBE the 3 port comp if I could somehow come up with a friendly load that would cycle that. The absolute primary priority I have is a holster. One of my earliest and least fond memories of 3Gun is getting DQd on Stage 1 of a 3Gun Nation East Regional when my CZ jumped out of its USPSA style holster. I was frustrated and swore that would never happen and I have been running active retention ever since. I, like most 3gunners, run my gear way too hard. I prefer the long/terrain style matches (think Hard as Hell or Blueridge etc) so I will need to be finding something with retention and I really just don't know if there is a viable solution yet for frame mounted optic pistols. If someone out there knows better, PLEASE correct me. As for shotgun mags, I am still trying to figure that out as well. I haven't really thought about the shotgun set up only because I still don't have the Dissident, and based on their wait times, I have no idea when that will be. I have a feeling that getting the belt set up for that will require some creativity. This is all incredibly fantastic advice that I think any prospective-Open shooter would be glad to see. There is really not THAT much out there when it comes to getting into Open for 3Gun. Thanks guys!!

@Adamj and @Blockader I cannot thank you enough for these responses!! so incredibly helpful. Some fantastic information in here. I have a lot to learn. Very excited though!

Hi All Relatively new to these forums so forgive me if this topic has been discussed ad nauseam. I have been shooting 3Gun for a while and stayed within the TacOps division for the last 5 years and had a blast. However, Open has always been on my mind, and after shooting a KL-12 I knew I needed to do it. I have committed and am waiting on a KL-12 NNS, an open 9mm pistol, and will be working over my JP rifle. This is where I wanted to ask the forum if any of you guys and girls have any tips/tricks to Open that maybe seem insignificant to you, but have really made things easier/smoother or any gear that has saved you that you can’t go without. I would really welcome any and all advice at all for a new Open shooter. Thank you so much!

Thanks for the info! As a new Open-to-be shooter, there are a LOT of things that are new so all this knowledge helps a lot!

That is awesome and sounds like exactly what I’m thinking. How do you like the fast fire for the shotgun?

So I’m in search of an optic for my Dissident that is on its way. I’m going to be trying the Vortex Razor and the Holosun 510c. It might be a trial and error thing. I hope I like the Vortex Razor because I kind of want to stick with the same red dot for pistol, offset rifle, and shotgun as hard as that might be

Paid a fair amount more for an SVI in 9mm as a purpose built 3Gun pistol. Pistol shooting is, by a fair margin, the hardest discipline in 3Gun and I know that’s a strong opinion but I have found that to be the case over the past 6 years of shooting 3Gun. It feels like cheating and has been rock solid through some very physically demanding matches where other 2011s have failed with mechanical issues. It was 100% worth the price considering how much majors can cost these days!