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  1. 10 hours ago, Joe4d said:

    and everyone was running through multiple reddots that kept failing.,, People were shooting CO despite  the dots not because of.  USPSA went out of their way to mandate dot because they knew a bunch of people would just not use them and it wouldnt fit the plan if people won without dots.
    Seems everyone had to have 3 dots,, 1 on the gun, one as a spare and one going back and forth to the mfg for replacement/repair.
    Does seem to be less chatter about the failures now. Good analogy with the rifle scopes though.. They went from delicate gimmicks that couldnt be trusted through an era of scopes with BUIS,, to eventually becoming reliable enough to depend on. Most of my rifles dont have sights.
    I imagine pistol dots will get there eventually,,  just arnt there yet. 

    I still remember the first year I shot CO, 2018. I had to send back 12 DPP in one season.  I actually had 3 spares at one point. The DPP had been redesigned and supposedly has much less problems now, but I still wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole.

     

    Since then dots have gotten much more reliable, but you're right, they aren't there yet. But I think they will be at some point. There is at least 4 new competition focused red dots being released this year. Hopefully at least one of them takes the next step.

  2. 10 hours ago, ltdmstr said:


    Actually, what you just wrote contradicts your own point.  But whatever.  Pretty much not relevant to LO anyway.

    This a forum about practical shooting, and i'm talking about rifles in a practical setting.

  3. 1 minute ago, ltdmstr said:

     

    Um, most rifles I see, at least those intended for >100 yards, have scopes not dots.  And the stuff that's intended for close range with a dot all have BUIS, for good reason.

    So you’re saying that most rifles don’t use irons as their primary sighting system? Thanks for proving my point. 

  4. 34 minutes ago, Joe4d said:

    I firmly believe if Production had gone to a 140 or 126, load to capacity magazine rule we wouldnt be having this conversation,, and CO would be an afterthought..  Yeh people like dots, but IMO it was the 9mm ammo production style gun and full capacity that made it boom in popularity.

    Under current conditions major is dwindling.. however I do see a very likely scenario that would bring it back.. A return to widespread mag limit laws..
    1911's were pretty plain jane,, mostly milspec style until the 10 round law came around. Yeh  custom jobs sure, and custom builders, but you wernt  walking in a gun store, buying an off the shelf, bump beavertail, extended safety full length guide rod,, or even good reliable 8 round mags until then. Suddenly every gun company was making a tricked out 1911 45.  Folks figured if you could only have 10 rounds they might as well be big ones.

    Far as percents, I imagine LO will just cannibalize the other divisions.  Some steel frame CO guys will move,, Some open guys will switch to slide mount and be able to load normal 9mm. Few limited guys will get optic mounts.
    I dont see it "growing" the sport...

     

     

    I gotta say, I pretty much disagree with everything you’ve just said…..

    Just like you don’t see irons on rifles much anymore, in 10 years dots will be the default on handguns as well. We’re well on the way there now.

     


     

     

  5. 35 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:

     

    I would be curious if 2011s were allowed in CO for arguments sake, how the top 10 would shake out at CO nationals with a mix of 2011s and Striker fired guns?

     

    What do you intend to shoot mostly if LO becomes a Provisional?  LO or CO or a mix?


    I think you’d see a fairly similar split to what we currently see in limited. Paid shooters shooting plastic guns, and a good portion of everyone else using a 2011.

     

    It boils down to this, most any gun can be shot competitively, but it takes much more skill and time to shoot some guns on the same level as others.  
     

    Also the difference in quality of sponsorship is huge, Canik pays Nils an actual salary to shoot. A sponsorship from a custom shop is a mediocre discount or free use of a gun if you’re really good. 
     

    You can hardly blame the guy for going the route he is. He’s making a decent salary to do what he enjoys. Even if he’s artificially limiting his top performance in some divisions.  

  6. 2 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:

     

    Agreed, but is that due to Major scoring and/or the 2011?  


    A combo of both. A shooter of Nils talent has lesser gains, but I’d argue there is still a difference.

     

    It took Nils a couple years of shooting the canik before his match results caught up to what they had been previously. He was consistently 10% behind Max for the first couple years in CO. 

  7. I’ve kind of been sitting back and watching this thread, and figure now it’s time to add my 2 cents..

     

    For background, I’ve been shooting a P320 of some sort, in CO for the last 5 years.  
     

    When LO was first announced, I just kind of shrugged my shoulders. My opinion at the time was, 2011s should just be added to CO.

     

    For a fun thing to do this offseason, I picked up a fairly high end 2011 and have been shooting it fairly regularly the last few weeks. I basically picked up the gun and was as good or better than I had been with a p320, with very little time behind the trigger.
     

    There is no question the 2011 is easier to shoot and it makes me a better shooter. How much is debatable. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the relative gain increase, the weaker the fundamentals and skill level of the shooter.  
     

    All that said, how does this apply to LO? Well, my opinion is now that allowing 2011s in CO will invalidate most plastic guns. Most serious shooters will want every edge, real or perceived. 
     

    People like to bring up Nils winning limited nationals with a canik. Nils is a hell of a shooter, but he’s paid to shoot a canik. He flat out would have won by 5%, instead of a fraction of a point, if he had been shooting a proper 2011 in major.  
     

  8. On 12/11/2022 at 6:49 PM, waktasz said:

    Just received one of thse. Glass is clearer and not tinted like an SRO, but the dot on mine is not as circular or clear as either of my SROs. Not sure if it's my vision or if this one is deffective. Thoughts?

    Take a picture of the dot with your cell phone. Camera doesn’t distort like astigmatism can. 

  9. 35 minutes ago, lroy said:

     

    It's an older video, but is this not what he's talking about?

     



     

    Again. That’s mostly about the barrel itself. the build up I’m talking about is in a  gap between the barrel crown and the sight block. You can’t really get at it without scraping on the crown, and I don’t think that’s a good idea. Shooting a jacketed bullet will do nothing for this, in fact it might push more buildup into the gap. 
     

    what I was really looking for is someone that shoots a nemesis. And their experiences.

  10. 37 minutes ago, lroy said:

    Think I remember an Atlas vid of them recommending shooting some plated rounds through it to end your session to help push out s#!t out the barrel/comp.

    This problem isn’t that. He’s talking about inside the barrel. 

  11. 11 hours ago, nearsightedgunner said:

    Try to switch to plated bullets. The cost maybe a little higher but I don’t believe it will be much.

    Are you sure its the blue polymer coating you are seeing around your crown or are they carbon deposits? Either way you need a little elbow grease. Try Scottsbrite pad and a good brand barrel cleaner solvent. Patiently rub the deposit with it.

    There is no way to get scotch brite into the sightblock 

  12. Section 16 for provisional divisions states that it can pretty much be implemented any time after a vote. It could enter USPSA as a provisional division as soon as the end of this month.  

     

    That said, as written, the soonest LO could be a real division is Jan 31st 2025. If they implement provisional LO, there is a minimum 12 month trial period, which would go past the deadline to make it real on Jan 31 2024, Jan 31 2025 would be the next available date. If things go slow, it could be 2026 or 2027. 

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, Covfefe said:

    Can any R3 Max owners provide a durability update with a couple seasons under your belt? 

    I’ve been using romeo3s since they came out. Pretty much I get between 10-25k live rounds through the optic, and then it’ll have problems with the buttons. Generally I send it into sig, and it’s turned around in 2ish weeks. 
     

    the button problem is something you can see coming a mile away. and it’s not something that will tank a match. So, I’ve just gotten into a routine with it. 
     

     

  14. 3 hours ago, shred said:

    Yeah, same problem comp dudes have, but with harder access.  I wonder if a piloted crowning tool would work if you were careful not to recut the crown.

     

    The buildup is right against the crown, which makes me nervous. 

  15. 2 minutes ago, CHA-LEE said:

     

    Use a different powder which doesn't vaporize the coating off of the bullets. If your ammo is "Smoky" then the coating is getting vaporized. For example, Tight Group + Major PF 40 cal coated bullets = MEGA Smoky

    I use sport pistol, which is supposedly made for coated bullets. 

  16. 7 hours ago, jimbullet said:

    Typically good to just scrub it through with hopes 9 but I understand sometimes lead can be stubborn. What I did previously was to get about 3-5 rounds of fmj ammo and shot it through the barrel. The FMj projectile tends to squeeze the lead out with it. At least most of it. The flip side of this theory which some say is some lead that remain gets pancaked inside the barrel which might make it tougher to remove (?) I haven't experienced that so far or if there is, its too tiny to notice.

     

    But I always thought the FMJ rounds have been very helpful for stubborn lead.

    I’m not really talking about inside the barrel. The problem I have is between the barrel crown and the sight block. 

  17. I’ve been shooting an Atlas Artemis this winter. The Artemis has a sight block barrel. I’ve been shooting mostly blue bullets through it. The problem is, I’ve been getting hella lead and coating build up between the barrel crown and the sight block. I’m afraid to really dig at it because I don’t want to damage the barrel crown. 
     

    anyone have any tips, or experience with this?

  18. 9 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:

     

    I bought some a year ago.  The rest of them are over 3 years old.  I have not used the newer ones yet as I have not had a need. 

     

    Seems strange they are that far off.  

     

    With that said I have not purchased any 21 round mags in over three years.  Maybe the variance is with the mags.

     

     

     

     

    It’s almost certainly the mags. Sig doesn’t care about a few thousands of tolerance. The mags are also made by a couple different manufacturers. 

  19. 1 hour ago, RangerTrace said:

    Maybe don't worry too much about the gauge?  Someone told me at Nationals a lot of folks used the stock Sig 21 rounders.  They didn't fit the gauge, but since they weren't an advantage they allowed them.  

    So you would rely on the RM at a random level 2, to ignore the rule book?

  20. 29 minutes ago, RangerTrace said:

    I used to spend a lot of money/time/trouble trying to get extra rounds in 140mm mags when I shot a lot of limited.  I'm not going to do that with the P320 platform.  For me, one of the selling points of shooting a pistol like this is not having to worry about magazine issues.  

    That has zero to do with if your mags will fit the gauge. It’s a well known fact that OEM 21 round sig mags may not pass the gauge. To ignore this before going to a major is pretty foolish. 

  21. 1 hour ago, boudreux said:

    So I've recently moved to the legion platform and have noticed that the magazine and/or base pad sizes are off. 

    I bought 3 Henning base pads for the 17 round legion mags. I am getting 23 in them with factory springs but they barely fit the mag gauge. I have to give them a good squeeze to get them in there. I also bought 4 - 21 round sig mags. 2 of them have Henning base pads which fit the gauge easily. The other 2 - 21 rounders have tti base pads and they aren't even close to fitting the gauge. I've spent a fortune on mags and base pads and I hate that I now have a couple $70+ mags that can only be used in practice. Anybody have issues like this? 

    I recently bought some new mag tubes and taran base pads. They didn’t fit. I had to file the mag lips to get them legal. 

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