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Thanks I'll look into giving it a try, looks like a nice unit.

Hello PCC shooters. Looking for help in finding a larger/paddle type ambi safety that works reliably with a Hiperfire 24c. I see the Strike Industries and especially the Odin have nice configurations but do not know if they are compatible with the Hiperfire 24 c trigger system. I believe I read whatever safety tumblr is used it has to be a full round diameter like mil-spec. Any proven recommendations is appreciated, thanks.

As I'm looking at the pics of these very nice PCCs the same question I was thinking of asking you has already been asked so I'll double down on it... whos safety levers are you using? Would love to see a picture of the left side. Looks like they both would give a great position to ride the safety when shooting. (Then I'll have to see if they work with Hiperfire 24c LOL)

Yep.Thanks for this. Good to see a quantitative comparison on a simple standards type drill. Wondering if he applies the laser during a field course and if so what circumstances is it a benefit. I haven't seen many big names make use of lasers. I figured they would if there was truly an advantage. I would really like to use mine if I can determine when it would be advantageous.

Has anybody taken notice if any of the top PCC shooters on the circuit are using a laser? I have the Crimson Trace green on mine zeroed at 7 yards to eliminate hold over on tight shots up close. I find I rarely turn it on and just use a holdover technique with the red dot. Just wondering if and where I'm missing the boat on other applications for the laser that truly saves time. I tried it on hard leans, especially on week side,but seems that transitioning to week side shoulder allows me to get very deep on those tight liens. I haven't seen one mounted on Max L., Josh F. or Todd J.'s etc. unless I'm mistaken and overlooked it.

I am trying to find when the dot/circle is an advantage over the dot alone. Inside about 10 yards may be faster which is also where shoot on move is most advantageous. But when course of fire also has partials and tighter shots farther out I'm finding the circle part sometimes blocking accuracy confirmation. I want to like it,not sure if I'm using it to it's potential.

Yeah my curiosity is if Max would use the dot or dot/circle combo depending on stage conditions.

Thanks for the input. I'm going to run some more drills and especially ones that will include shooting on the move to see if the circle/dot combo is a benefit in that circumstance. I know Max L. is running one of these and certain occasions I've seen him with two, (one on a 45 angle mount) I wonder what sighting recticle he uses and if he ever changes depending on what an individual stage is presenting.

So I am now trying to get acquainted with the characteristics and sighting of my 510c. I previously commented that it's at the same height as my Cmore on an ADM mount however that was not an accurate statement. I now find myself using a 1/2 inch riser mount. It' sits at a higher position than the Cmore but not so much that it is any issue. Running some head box drills at 20 ,15 and 10 yards I'm trying to see if and when there is an advantage for the circle/dot versus just the dot. At 10 yards and in it seems the circle/dot Is faster. However Precision/ tight shots 20 yards and back I'm taking too long to aim since the circle sometimes obscures the outside boundaries of the target. Also even on closer targets if the brightness is turned up too much there seems to be a lot of starburst coming off the center dot and into the circle which really blurs any kind of precision shooting if needed. Am I using this optic correctly? I believe there is more to this learning curve and I am aware of with the 510c. Anyone care to comment on their experiences with it? Thanks

Thanks for the input. I bought a TR jig in anticipation of using it. I may still in the future but the EGW components I used needed minimal prep,good hook heights etc. I polished everything,cut the secondary sear angle a little bit more, put the slightest bit of round to it and with a 15 lb mainspring have a nice 2.25lb break with slightest roll which I prefer. I will disassemble after another 500 rounds or so to make sure all the wear marks looks even.

When reading the article listed above the bolt unit itself looks to be very well made and reasonably priced. Does anyone have first-hand experience with it working in an ATI 9mm upper or the use of that bolt with a Hiperfire 24c trigger regardless of what receiver it's in?

Thank you for the input. I have a Strike Industries coming with the oversized latch but will consider the other latchless if not happy with this.

Good point but dot remains same shape through different intensities. I certainly can't draw any conclusions until I try it again, especially better lighting conditions.

So I got my 510c today,seem Ms promising. By the time I got home was starting to turn dusk. I was happy to see it's the same height as my Cmore slideride on a American Defense QD mount which gives me about 1/4-1/3 co witness if I had standard height AR sights. Using just the single dot to get close to zeroing,again not ideal light conditions, something I noticed is as I changed the intensity of the dot the point of impact seem to move considerably,up and left. Has anyone noticed a point of impact change with change in dot brightness?

Cool! If I identify my $20 bill as a $100 bill will they let me make purchases accordingly, would sure help out buying gun stuff . Hey like the rest of us I'm not getting any younger either. I'm glad to hear that physical training will definitely help at any age of this game. "Shoot well and prosper"

Ok, thanks. It looks like a nice unit as does the Strike Industries unit. I would have the same question for that one also as far as coming back un intentionally during fire but maybe is only a concern with heavier recoiling calibers.

Ever have any issues with it coming back with the bolt unintentionally during firing? Since it does not have a traditional latch to keep it in place I was concerned of this and heard of others mentioning this happened to them with 300 Blackout ARs. Thanks.

One instance where I find benefit having it shorter than how I would normally keep a regular AR rifle is when transitioning to weak shoulder for a deep lean. It's easier/quicker to get behind it. Keeping it shorter, I'm also seeing some advantage when I would move thru different positions and have the buttstock ride up atop my shoulder when moving and then slide it back into its shooting position upon engagement.

So I can see now that PCC has become an addiction for me. In an effort to reduce stage times I'm trying to practice shooting on the move,entering and exiting positions and utilizing weak shoulder firing when applicable. I know how I usually have my butt stock set for length of pull (LOP) when normally firing a rifle but I have been playing with shortening it up 1 to 2 inches to see what is most efficient with the close quarters maneuvering we do in a typical USPSA stage. Does anyone have any experienced input they would share regarding benefits or detriments they noticed with shorter vs longer lengths of pull? Thanks.

YouTube search "Josh Froelich PCC" he has a couple of videos put out by himself and some under Federal that have some good basics of PCC movement to and from/into and out of positions.

Yup, as mentioned priory I agree with the above. I really do enjoy learning how to safely,efficiently and quickly move a longarm through a course designed primarily for a pistol. I do believe it is generally a disadvantage having a PCC instead of a pistol in a close quarters course which again is what makes it interesting and fun. From a competitive standpoint that only matters if you are looking for a high overall comparison. The reality is PCC competes against PCC which is why I commented on this topic of conversation relating to the original OP of what skills to improve on to be competitive in the PCC division.

Sorry about the prior double up messages my phone screen keeps flipping around. ABSOLUTELY NOT... I would no way like to have a USPSA match redirected in favor or neagative bias of PCC. I can only speak from experience in the a few stage designers saying how the PCC guys "will have a hell of a time dealing with this" or " this should get some of them dq'd". Same way I wouldn't want to have pistol shooters trying to deal with 20+ yard stars and 30+yard plate racks. As mentioned before it's all in good fun, no one's playing to win a Cadillac. I enjoy the difficulty of running a "rifle" through a pistol designed stage. Where else do you get to practice maneuvering a long gun in such tight quarters.

This^. I realize this is an older thread but dug it up when searching for how to improve my overall PCC scores since I'm relatively new to it. I shoot high A in Lmited/Open and I'm realizing a lot of the principles that I try to utilize as far as shooting while entering a position and shooting while exiting a position with a pistol,in addition to shooting and engaging whenever I can accurately on the move, dramatically improve my overall finish with the GM and M PCC shooters. Also rehearsing when and how to smoothly transition into weak shoulder/weak hand when prepping for a stage keeps times down. Where I shoot it's as if they purposely try to screw the PCC guys with extremely difficult leans since there are still some animosity by some of having a "rifle at a pistol match". Just makes it all that much more fun!

This^. I realize this is an older thread but dug it up when searching for how to improve my overall PCC scores since I'm relatively new to it. I shoot high A in Lmited/Open and I'm realizing a lot of the principles that I try to utilize as far as shooting while entering a position and shooting while exiting a position with a pistol,in addition to shooting and engaging whenever I can accurately on the move, dramatically improve my overall finish with the GM and M PCC shooters. Also rehearsing when and how to smoothly transition into weak shoulder/weak hand when prepping for a stage keeps times down. Where I shoot it's as if they purposely try to screw the PCC guys with extremely difficult leans since there are still some animosity by some of having a "rifle at a pistol match". Just makes it all that much more fun!