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You may contact Hannu directly.

This is the answer I received through GV.

It's pretty close. It will depend on temperature and diameter of barrel. I have also 18" barrel cut down from original Colt barrel. It will make major above +5 celsius on my rifle. DMPS used to make 7.62x39 barrels. I do not know if they still do.

Some of my Club members are going. I say yes. Wife says no. Let's see who wins Buy her new Molot too and both can come or buy Benelli M2. Actually that pictured Molot is my wife but I'm using it. My wife shoots with Benelli M2 on standard division.

I will post the question to GV forum for Neil Beverly to look at it and make decision.

Yes, Dirk is using Molot Not really. You can use different 1911 springs on it like between 11lbs to 16lbs. That's what I do. Good choise Come to Finland our SG championship match and you will see several Saigas and at least one Molot in action.

Let me know how it cronos.

Answer to your original question: Saiga IPSC or tactical version has adjustable gas system and Molot doesn't have one. Molot has auto bolt hold open and Saiga doesn't have one Both have magwells. If the bolt is first generation on Molot it will broke after couple thousand rounds but you can replace it with Saiga bolt. That is what I have done with my Molot. Mine was first gen version. Here you can see my both versions: Molot has now Dreadnaught industries mid barrel compensator or was it Alex Wakal production. Saiga has now Maxrounds compensator (no possibility to use chokes after that, but I'm working on it) Both SG's will use Maxrounds 20rd drums. That drum in the picture is not compatible with magwell.

On my 20" Colt barrel it makes major. 16" is pretty close but if it's cold weather it will be below major.

http://www.asejaosa.fi/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=72&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

It doesn't seems to make major PF with 123gr bullet on 16" barrel. 2315ft/s means PF 284 It will need heavier bullet for major loads and that means snow ball trajectory.

Does that second row of shells qualify rule 5.2.5 "maximum distance that a competitor's cartridges or reloading devices may extend away from a competitor's body, a Range Officer may check compliance by measuring the gap between the competitor’s body and the rims of the cartridges if held separately in clips or loops, or the center of the longest external dimension of any reloading devices." which is 50mm on every division except open division. Then there is new rule discussion if they are going to deny devices which holds ammo on 2 rows. It's going to be voted on GA 2011. That is the reason why I asked external dimensions of that holder. I want to be sure it qualifies IPSC rules before I buy it.

Tate, it is naturally UP We tested couple different titanium alloys + couple of titanium carriers from other manufacturers, but it was not so great idea than we first thought. Hannu, send me PM through TA-forum and price tag of that carrier. Does it include super hyper bolt also?

We use LaRue

Hannu, give me the name? I have titanium carrier from Kurt M, but haven't really made a field test with it.

Various stores. AV-Ase ja Erä, Helsingin Asenurkka, HH Sport None of them have Saiga on stock now.

What are the external dimensions of that 4x2 model? If it exceeds 50mm from the body it won't be allowed at IPSC matches.

Saiga because there is no importer for Molot. I bought my Molot through our local gun store from Germany. I suggest you read this: http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=12526 Saskia is selling her shotguns because of injury. You can contact that nice lady and make a deal of your life. Those SG's are race tuned.

I suggest you get your race shotgun here: http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ The guy is one of the open division top shooters in Europe and knows Saigas and Molots.

We had 1st part of our 3gun IPSC tournament last weekend. It was SG match Raine Peltokoski was shooting on open division with his standard M1 Benelli. He beat the crap out of us Saiga and Molot shooters. Second best got only 78.57% and 3rd 74.05% I got only 53.37% I had 10 FTE's 10 stage match and round count was aprox 140. 180 competitors on that match. One curiosity of that match was that pump action shooter won the standard division.

IPSC rules do not force the maximum range shooting distance. It can be anything from zero -> infinity but basically at least here in Finland it's 300m. I prefer that CD-I reticle because there is circle also and it's good for CQB stages. The light is little bit dimmer than in LD-I reticle.

My wifes competition rifle is also middy 14.5" and runs great.

Match Name: Finnish Rifle Championship Match aka Huovi Rifle Match - XIII Turku Kivääri Cup Level: III Region: Finland City: Säkylä, Lounais-Suomi Club: SäSA / Turku IPSC Match Date: 2011-07-09 (2 days) Discipline: Rifle Minimum Rounds: 180 Number of Stages: 12 Entry Fee (Local): 75 € Entry Fee (USD): 105 Registration starts: 2011-04-01 Registration Deadline: 2011-06-09 Contact Name: J-P Vuorinen Contact and registration E-mail: tipsc(@)co.inet.fi Web Site: http://personal.inet.fi/yhdistys/tipsc/ Comments: Division D1 and D2 (SAS and SAO)

2011 there will be Nordic Rifle Championship match on same range.