ZackJones

There is a ton of stuff in the Handgun rules that doesn’t apply. We have done a lot of work to align the rules between the two sports. Spend a little time looking through the new rules. You may be surprised.

The 2018 USPSA Steel Challenge rules (https://steelchallenge.com/steel-challenge-Rules-Home.php). The USPSA appendix is not applicable to Steel Challenge. We have our own set of rules for PCC.

At our range, for Steel at least, PCC is transferred in case to Safe Area and then transferred to cart. No one that I know of does it at the car. If they do they will get one warning and if it happens again they won’t shoot that day.

I leave my RFRI/O and PCCI/O in case until I get to the line and then unbag there. I've seen then transported in carts without a case. While I'm personally not a fan of this practice I understand why it's done. I've never seen anyone transporting a PCC between stages simply by carrying it muzzle up or muzzle down. In fact doing so would be a violation of Appendix H9, #13, IMO.

I am switching to it as well once I shoot all of the 115g I have. We refer to the 115g as major power factor ammo .

Your comment didn't sit well with me so I went back though my emails this morning and found your email to scsarules and to me that you sent on 7/26/17. 2.2 – Please consider removing the USPSA references from the SCSA rule book. I currently shoot SCSA in the SE. Typically 1/3 to 1/2 of the competitors do not shoot USPSA. In many cases, they don’t shoot any discipline other than SCSA. SCSA should be a standalone shooting discipline. --Adopted. We now have our own appendix for each division and don't refer to USPSA rules. 3.1.2 – See I1 - I13 below --Same as above. A4.2 – I understand why comps/breaks should be allowed in PCCI. I don’t think they should be allowed in RFRI. --These are permitted in RFRI so that timers can pick up the shots. A5.1 – SCSA Open holster position shouldn’t have any restrictions. --Adopted See H1, #10. A5.6 – Carry Optics (omitted?) --Added as H6. E1 – Level 1 matches should be allowed to set the targets defined heights. Level 2 & 3 should require the target either be set at a height of 5’ from the shooters box via a level (laser or level/transit) or set at a consistent height(s) based on the target nearest to the shooting box. --Clarification added to E2. E2 – Glad to this was clarified. This will help matches have consistent setups. Target Clarification: On several occasions I’ve read (not in a rule book) and/or been told that the targets that attach to the stand via slot in the target face and “hook” on the target cap are not allowed/approved targets. Is this true? I can’t find any mention in the rule book regarding how the targets are attached to the vertical post. -This was not clarified but it's not true. "Hook" style targets are permitted. F – I know of several clubs, one in GA, that uses the name Steel Challenge and even links to the SCSA web site for their rules. How is SCSA management going to address clubs that represent themselves as SCSA clubs, but aren’t affiliated? --I only know of one and they have since affiliated. If you know of others, please email me details. I1-I13 – Please consider creating separate Appendices for each Division. It would be a simple copy and paste from the USPSA rule book and copy, paste and revise of I2 thru I4. --Adopted. So I will agree that we dropped the ball on thanking you for your input but you statement is wrong in that they were ignored. Going forward if you, or anyone else reading this post have a problem/suggestion/feedback regarding Steel Challenge email me directly at zack@uspsa.org.

I'm not quite up to 6 but I'd like to shoot 5 if possible: RFRO/RFRI/PCCO/PCCI and RFPO.

Some gee whiz numbers regarding competitors shooting multiple centerfire divisions. 2016 WSSC - 46 competitors shot 2 divisions. 2017 WSSC - 54 competitors shot 2 or more divisions. 2017 US Steel Shoot - 55 competitors shot 2 or more. One person shot 5 centerfire divisions. 2018 US Steel Shoot - 50 competitors shot 2 or more divisions. Counts are limited to centerfire divisions only.

Not all equipment. Mag pouches can go anywhere but holsters follow USPSA rules for positioning for Prod, SS, and CO.

2 per string so it’s +6 for the stage.

It’s up to RM to determine penalty. At US Steel Shoot this year we used 2 seconds and no one complained about that.

Center box is used if competitor doesn’t move.

My worst match experience was late last month when I DQ'd my wife at the US Steel Shoot. Regarding this situation: 1 - As MD/Stats guy I don't like it when people mess with the tablets. If there's a problem you call me. That's why there's a radio in every stage box. 2 - We don't have a rule applicable to issuing a DQ for messing with the tablets. Perhaps we should though? :). I'm assuming the MD issued the DQ using the catch-all "Unsportsmanlike conduct" rule? 3 - I found the OP's name listed in the results for 5 matches this calendar year. Two at OK Corral and three at Port Malabar. In which match were you and your friend DQ'd? None of the match results I reviewed this morning show a DQ for you -- at least not in the PCC match. Please send me the specifics of the DQ to zack@uspsa.org so I can look into this further.

Pistols are usually okay but I’ve seen lots of problems with timers not picking up times for rifles.

It’s growing this year. We do have less than 100 competitors classified in it though.

TacSol may.

Thanks you can tell everyone you are part of a world record. At least until June when we have WSSC or Dave Snyder has his big PA match.

I confirmed misses for BJ Norris and Shane Coley on Outer Limits. The only other plate I checked we confirmed it was a hit.

To match the name on the website for one - http://www.ussteelshoot.com

So if I drop my gun at this club would I not be DQ’d? (Yes it’s a trick question).

Atlanta Arms 7129 Wheat Street Covington, GA 30014 Make sure to put your Name and US Steel Shoot on the box.

Just approved you.

Two different owners. Jason Koon controls steel nationals and USPSA controls WSSC.

I’ll get address for ammo shipments. 3 prize tables. One for centerfire, one for PCC, and one for Rimfire.

It’s pretty close to that right now. Rimfire is hugely popular.