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I didn’t realize that CFE and WAC were the same powder? Exactly? I thought CFE was some new formulation? I third the HS-6 verdict. That’s what I tried originally in my open gun before I moved to Silhouette. I’m just finishing loading SD rounds for 380 and 9MM with Lehigh Xtreme Defense and CFE. The CFE gives me a 100 FPS more than the other listed powders. I’ll have to try it in the open gun when I run out of my 10 pounds of Silhouette [emoji51] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

CFE Pistol makes HOT loads, but not sure how much “gas” it puts off in comparison to the other well know powders if you are running a comp. I use it in my 380 and 9MM self defense loads. It gives me the highest velocity and good accuracy. More so than power pistol even. In my Glock 17 Open Gun I run Silhouette. It’s cheap and makes accurate low SD (like single digit low) loads so I know that the power factor will always be spot on. Haven’t tried the CFE Pistol. I only have a pound of it. Wow, just talked for two minutes and not sure I even helped??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That’s what I really meant. I have a bucket of scrap to sell. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Or throw them in the scrap bin [emoji846] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yes. Dillon 550. As soon as I feel the slightest pressure I stop and look, 9 times of 10 it’s this FC NT brass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How do you open up the case mouth uniformly to allow a bullet to slide in and out?

I would never tell someone they are wrong because they go the extra step for accuracy. There are a million ways to skin a cat. I use range pickup mixed head stamp brass and get great groups using silhouette and a Glock. SD’s between 6 and 8, over 20 shots. I compete locally with this. If I was sponsored or made a living at it, I’d probably care a little more. As it is I reload for so many guns and shoot so much, I just can’t afford the time it would take to sort pistol brass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I couldn’t agree more. Which is why I run mine at 3.4grs TG and about 960FPS. I tried every load between “wouldn’t cycle with a 10 pound spring” and “too hot too handle”. I found the same to be true with almost every handgun load I’ve tried. To slow and the groups open up big time beyond about 30 feet. But conversely, to fast and they also start spraying. At a little higher velocity they still shoot flat and are good to 60-70 feet. Beyond that, get a rifle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono(FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A °F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 7 959 300.24 140.97 6 959 300.24 140.97 5 945 291.54 138.91 4 954 297.12 140.24 3 958 299.62 140.83 2 938 287.24 137.89 1 959 300.24 140.97 Average: 953.5 FPS SD: 7.5 FPS Min: 938 FPS Max: 959 FPS Spread: 21 FPS Shot/sec: 0.6 True MV: 955 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00

147 S&S LFP coated 1.125" COAL HS-6 4.8grs 949 FPS (non-coated 974 FPS) G34 Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed Created: 10/27/17 13:01 Description: Precision Delta 124gr JHP 9MM G17 Open Notes 1: Precision Delta 0.355 JHP 35571 124 0.576 Notes 2: 6.8grs Silhouette Distance to Chrono(FT): 8.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.145 Bullet Weight(gr): 124.00 Temp: 97 °F BP: 29.88 inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 20 1379 523.68 171.00 19 1370 516.87 169.88 18 1384 527.48 171.62 17 1373 519.13 170.25 16 1370 516.87 169.88 15 1381 525.20 171.24 14 1380 524.44 171.12 13 1384 527.48 171.62 12 1381 525.20 171.24 11 1374 519.89 170.38 10 1374 519.89 170.38 9 1381 525.20 171.24 8 1383 526.72 171.49 7 1364 512.35 169.14 6 1379 523.68 171.00 5 1377 522.16 170.75 4 1382 525.96 171.37 3 1384 527.48 171.62 2 1390 532.07 172.36 1 1370 516.87 169.88 Average: 1378.0 FPS SD: 6.4 FPS Min: 1364 FPS Max: 1390 FPS Spread: 26 FPS Shot/sec: 0.0 True MV: 1384 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not sure how well this would work with Pistol cartridges and powder, but I started using it for rifle, and it works great. http://www.65guys.com/10-round-load-development-ladder-test/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When I’m testing new loads I use the caliber specific Lee powder die and Lyman Gen 6, not so much for accuracy reasons, but I find it quicker to move up in .2/.3 grain increments, rather the adjusting my powder measure each time.…if I’m only doing 15 to 20 rounds per charge. I still load them on the 550B. I just don’t use the powder dispenser. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Darrell, how do you modify the case to work with the Hornady OLG? I assume you drill and tap, but could you provide a little detail if you have time? In a new thread if need be... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think the Wolff have more squared off edges around the primer cup. CCI and Winchester have more rounded. I agree, both the primer pick up tubes and primer feeding system like the more rounded primer cups better. Fo sure Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s not supposed to be in anything. It’s supposed to be adjusted to be just a couple MM away from the rim so that case doesn’t back out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Also, I’ve noticed that some primers just feed better than others. Seems like the ones with a more rounded cup feed better overall. Everything feeds fine now, but just an observation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Make sure the screws that hold the primer feeder tube base in place aren’t too tight. The ones on the bottom. I ruined the base of a feeder tube by over tightening them years again when I first started. Lucky I live two blocks from Dillon and they replaced it for me. Also take some super fine sandpaper and go over the primer slide VERY lightly. You don’t want to remove any material or it will be sloppy. Just SMOOTH it out a tiny tiny bit. Hope that helps. It’s very frustrating when the primer slide won’t feed smoothly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I [emoji173]️ Silhouette. I run major in my modified G17 Open Gun. I ran HS-6 for awhile, but just found Silhouette to be a much more “even and balanced” powder. An SD of less than 10 over 24 shots is about as good as I’ve ever gotten in a pistol. Makes me confident that the pistol is producing the power factor that I assume it is. I also find Silhouette to be a good all all around powder, and it’s economical as are most of the Western Powders. Created: 10/27/17 13:01 Description: Precision Delta 124gr JHP 9MM G17 Open Notes 1: Precision Delta 0.355 JHP 35571 124 0.576 Notes 2: 6.8grs Silhouette Distance to Chrono(FT): 8.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.145 Bullet Weight(gr): 124.00 Temp: 97 °F BP: 29.88 inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 24 1379 523.68 171.00 23 1370 516.87 169.88 22 1384 527.48 171.62 21 1373 519.13 170.25 20 1370 516.87 169.88 19 1381 525.20 171.24 18 1380 524.44 171.12 17 1384 527.48 171.62 16 1381 525.20 171.24 15 1374 519.89 170.38 14 1374 519.89 170.38 13 1381 525.20 171.24 12 1383 526.72 171.49 11 1364 512.35 169.14 10 1361 510.10 168.76 9 1379 523.68 171.00 8 1377 522.16 170.75 7 1382 525.96 171.37 6 1384 527.48 171.62 5 1390 532.07 172.36 4 1370 516.87 169.88 3 1362 510.85 168.89 2 1361 510.10 168.76 1 1351 502.63 167.52 Average: 1374.8 FPS SD: 9.5 FPS Min: 1351 FPS Max: 1390 FPS Spread: 39 FPS Shot/sec: 0.1 True MV: 1381 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My go to subsonic load for my G34 after hundreds of rounds of testing. Shoot it suppressed as well. I've shot it day and night and haven't noticed any smoke. It's cheap and accurate. I know most guys find the sweet spot to be the 135 PF range so this is a little high but still in the ball park. Shoots soft enough for me. I'm guessing it's the hot burning TG combined with the moly that's giving you a little smoke. 147gr RMR PRN Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 (942FPS) COAL 1.150-1.160" ISMI 11LB Spring Set: 265 Created: 02/24/17 13:21PM Description: RMR 147gr PRN 9MM Notes 1: RMR 0.355 FMJ/RN ENC 35597 147 0.675 Notes 2: 3.4grs Titegroup Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00 Temp: 63 °F BP: 30.09 inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 948 293.39 139.36 9 975 310.34 143.32 8 970 307.17 142.59 7 973 309.07 143.03 6 970 307.17 142.59 5 967 305.27 142.15 4 978 312.26 143.77 3 964 303.38 141.71 2 981 314.17 144.21 1 959 300.24 140.97 Average: 968.5 FPS SD: 9.7 FPS Min: 948 FPS Max: 981 FPS Spread: 33 FPS Shot/sec: 0.8 True MV: 972 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00 -------------------------------------------- Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have used the 90gr and 95gr TJ's in several 380's. When they first started carrying them, I think the price was something ridiculous like $60/1000??? So I tried them. Can't speak to how they work in 9MM, but they quality was good and they were consistent from bullet to bullet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If they are 115gr shouldn't they be cheaper than the 124gr???? Not trying to be a wise ass. Maybe I missed something. PD makes 115gr JHP. Wouldn't the PD 115GR JHP be cheaper than the Everglades 115gr JHP if that were the case? I have 115gr PD JHP, but I haven't compared the prices. I think as a general rule of thumb, especially in 9MM, the faster you push a bullet, up to a certain extent, the more accuracy you're gonna squeeze out of it. So I'm guessing you're pushing the 115gr bullets much faster than the 124gr bullets to achieve the same PF? I've tried the PD 115gr in my open gun and they are indeed very accurate. I just didn't like the "feeling" of the gun with combination. Personal preference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Created: 10/19/16 09:50AM Description: PD 124gr JHP 9MM G17 Open Notes 1: PD 0.355 BJHP 124 N/A Notes 2: 6.8grs Silhouette Distance to Chrono(FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.138 Bullet Weight(gr): 124.00 Temp: 77 °F BP: 26.78 inHg Altitude: 2118.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 11 1360 509.35 168.64 10 1363 511.60 169.01 9 1354 504.86 167.90 8 1367 514.61 169.51 7 1367 514.61 169.51 6 1354 504.86 167.90 5 1343 496.69 166.53 4 1363 511.60 169.01 3 1376 521.40 170.62 2 1358 507.85 168.39 1 1378 522.92 170.87 Average: 1362.1 FPS SD: 10.1 FPS Min: 1343 FPS Max: 1378 FPS Spread: 35 FPS Shot/sec: 0.8 True MV: 1366 FPS Group Size (in): 0.00

My load for my G17 Open gun. 6.8grs Silhoutte. CCI small pistol primers. Precision Delta 124 JHP. Seated 1.100" COAL. 165 power factor all day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Precision Delta. All the way. No affiliation. Just really like their stuff for performance and value. If you buy at least 2000 they pretty much cost the same as plated and just a few cents more per bullet than coated. For a few cents more, at least in the .355/.356 arena you can get JHP's, which to me is the best bang for the buck (pun intended). When I started reloading I used exclusively lead. Just too damn messy! Then I tried plated. Much cleaner, but more expensive and not nearly as accurate overall as lead (lead seem to me to be the accurate bullets I have used this far, but not worth the mess). Then I tried coated. They're accurate and cleaner than plain lead, but still messy, and not that much cheaper than played. I finally decided that with the volume I shoot JHP/FMJ was the way to for 90% of my shooting. The only areas I still us something different are for 9MM subsonic, I use plated, because 147gr FMJ's or JHP's seem to be WAY more than the plated and I get good accuracy in subsonic ammo with the plated. All other 9MM loading get JHP. All .380 loading get JHP. In .45 Auto and .40/10MM for whatever reason the JHP's for those bullets is way more expensive than the FMJ's so I stick with FMJ's. I've spent hours price shopping so I'll save you the time. For pretty much every thing JHP/FMJ PD is the cheapest (and best) as long as you order at least 2000. The only exception I could find was .95gr JHP's were cheaper by the case when ordered from Montana Gold (also great bullets, just typically more expensive. For quality plated bullets Rocky Mountain Reloading is the go too. RMR also has the best price on 180gr FMJ's. PD has the best price on 165gr FMJ's. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk