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Well, another minor setback.............was finishing up the Case Feeder install, and going by the part number, Dillon sent me a case feed tube for the S1050. About 1.5 inches too long just eyeballing it.
Dillon is sending out the correct part number, and told me to go ahead and shorten/cut the bottom end to the correct length so I'll have something to use. But having no previous experience in cutting one, and especially getting it square, I'm not too comfortable tackling that project.
I have plenty of setup work to do; change out three dies, get the MBF expander set up at station #5, and get some N320 flowing through this machine!
HR
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6 hours ago, ltdmstr said:
Mine are mounted straight to the bench top, which is 2x 3/4" birch plywood. I put threaded inserts from the bottom so there's no screw threads sticking out.
ltdmstr:
I took your advise and mounted it straight to the bench! My front holes are 3/4" back from the front edge of the bench, and I have plenty of clearance for the handle in full down position.
Finishing up the mounting as we speak!
THANK YOU! to everyone that's replied!
Truly appreciate all the info!
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15 minutes ago, See_Archie_Shoot said:
Inline mfg. mount works great
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSee:
Nice setup!
My bench is purposely built 40 1/2" tall, and the handle height is just about perfect with the base sitting directly on the bench. Of course, I could easily use a 1/4" additional plate height without any issues...........
Thanks!
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Finally received the RL1100 today.........exactly 14 weeks from the day I ordered. 9mm......
I've got it out on the bench, doing an inventory, and it's missing a few small parts; but nothing that will stop the set-up. Something that's caught my eye, and I guess its the foot print of where the XL650 used to be mounted using the elevated Dillon Strong Mount, has me considering a mounting plate to use under the 1100 just to give it a bigger foot print. I've got plenty of bench and it's strong and also anchored to the wall studs, but I've admired what appears to be an aluminum mounting plate that's being used with the 1100 on the front cover of the Owner's Manual.
I'm wondering if any S1050/RL1100 users are using, or have considered, an additional plate under the base just to increase the foot print? Or am I considering something that's totally unnecessary, and should go ahead and mount it to the bench as delivered? BTW, the handle height is perfect with just the press sitting on the bench.
Thanks for any feed back!
HR
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ddc:
I think you're right with regards to my link from F&FB.........however it does announce
Quoteis designed specifically for use with 9mm and larger shell cases
......and now I see there's another one with a smaller backing rod: http://fastandfriendlybrass.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=61.
And it also states:
Quotebut may work with other small primer cases such as 9mm.
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Appears that both of these items may stabilize a 9mm case, as that's my setup for now; but is doing so by also incorporating the Universal Die and Lock Ring that's used with the RL1100's Rifle Backup Expander.
And, F&FB also offers a similar item to the Dillon Pistol Backup Expander; however it uses the Dillon Universal Die and Lock Ring that's also used Dillon's Rifle Expander setup: http://fastandfriendlybrass.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=85. And they claim:
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Will also dead lock the press when it comes across one of those pesky 9mm cases with the interior step.
Expands case mouth to ~0.3575"
Bullets tested below sit squarely, and have a "suction pop" sound when pulled out by hand.I can see the advantage of having the expander step to catch one of those pesky stepped brass pieces for those using mixed range brass to reload...........
IMO, if an operator wants to eliminate the neck expander for pistol at station #3, then your option #2 seems viable. Then, the expanding and flaring would take place at Station #5 just as with an XL650 doing the same at the powder station.
In all fairness to the 1100, I'll hopefully have the opportunity next week to do some precise measuring using the stock Dillon setup and then with the MBF funnel at Station #5. Hopefully the stock neck expansion at #3 won't alter the results after also using the MBF funnel. If it does, then a re-machined pistol expander at #3 will be an easy accomplishment........
And yes, if you find that aftermarket adjustable die, be sure and share it with us!
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1 hour ago, ddc said:
It would be nice if that die had the ability to adjust the expansion independent of affecting the swage operation.
I wonder if there are any aftermarket dies that would allow that.
I've been thinking the same thing as I plan on using the MBF powder funnel when the RL1100 arrives, and don't want issues with expansion in Station 3 and Station 5.........
Wonder if this would work?
http://fastandfriendlybrass.com/shop/item.aspx/ffb-swage-rod-backer-for-dillon-1050-large/62/
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Glad to hear this worked out for you!
Sounds like Bill Larsen needs added to the Saved Contacts list!
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Everyone:
I just received the email!
QuoteSHIPPING DEPARTMENT of DILLON PRECISION PRODUCTS INC sent BEN ####### 1 FedEx Home Delivery package(s). The delivery date may be updated when FedEx receives the package.This shipment is scheduled to be sent on 04/29/2020.
Their estimated delivery date is 05/05/2020 which will be 14 weeks and one day since I ordered (9mm) direct from Dillon Precision!
What an ordeal!
Thanks everyone for all your positive feedback!
HR
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5 hours ago, fastglass1985 said:
My little setup
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Great looking setup. And yes, I have investigated the Endoscope option. Right now I already have a 7" color monitor and an extra back-up camera; so once i have it set up I'm going to experiment with that and see how it works. I also have a nice Endoscope setup save on Amazon.
Thanks for sharing your setup!
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I see some users are doing just fine using the 1050/1100 existing expansion die and universal powder die. And from my current inexperience, I'm wondering if different types of bullets may change the requirements? IOW, fmj/jhp vs cast lead which are usually a bit larger diameter.........
I decided to look on the MBF website for specific install instructions related to the MBF powder funnel, and found this in the Setup Manual:
Installing and Adjusting the Powder Funnel
Your Mr.Bulletfeeder® is supplied with a newly designed and improved powder funnel. The powder funnel is a very important
component of a bullet feeder of any kind, as it prepares the brass correctly so that the bullet can be seated in the case, and not
tip over as you index the shell plate. To achieve this, we have redesigned the powder funnel to allow for just the right amount
of expansion, without over flaring or stressing your brass.On the website under the Setup/FAQ, it states this:
Q: Is it necessary to use the powder funnel/expander that came with the system?
A: We recommend installing the new powder funnel/expander (for handgun calibers) on your press. It has been machined with a modified profile that improves bullet tamping performance while requiring a minimum of case flaring. A properly tamped bullet will not fall from the case mouth when the press is indexed. As you become accustomed to reloading with the new bulletfeeder, your reloading rate will naturally increase. The higher reloading rate will cause poorly tamped bullets to fall off of the cases during indexing. That being said, if your existing press setup prepares the cases well enough to hold the bullets in place while indexing, use of the new style funnel/expander is optional.So, it looks as though there's always the option that if your current setup is working, then no need to switch. Based on my 6+ years of using the MBF funnel in an XL650, I can only say "for now" that I definitely look forward to that same bullet stability the MBF provided while using the RL1100!
I appreciate the info that ddc shared above:
For me the expander function of the swage die does not provide enough of a flare/expansion/whatever you want to call it/? to allow reliable dropping of a bullet from a bullet feeder.
I had to install my MBF funnel into the 1100 powder measure to get bullet feeder functionality equivalent to what I had on the 650.
The swage/expander die does do enough expanding such that I can place a bullet by hand although it is a bit tippy.
For me it was not quite enough to use with the bullet feeder.And think I'll be able to test a JHP or Coated Lead bullet's stability after it comes out of the swage/expander die and directly compare it to a case after it's went through the MBF funnel.
Thanks to everyone that's replied! Truly appreciated!
HR
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2 hours ago, louu said:
Really wish I'd have known this stuff a couple of years ago. I did the EGW kit on my range officer and it's pretty much the same as stock, maybe a touch lighter. My STI is easily less than half of it.
There's only 1 gunsmith shop here in South Jersey, I think it's called winters or something, I talked to him once on the phone and he was a total miserable POS.
louu:
A really trusted name in the business told me to always check the "residual resistance" in a set/kit prior to replacing. This is easy to do: leaving the Grip Safety AND Sear Spring out of the pistol, cock the hammer and engage the sear with a small punch/etc., hold the gun on its side or upside down, and push the disconnector up so it will engage the sear. Now measure the pull weight to release. If the current parts are in a 6 to 12 oz average for this pull weight, then you'll be able to gain that preferred weight by simply working with the sear spring. Just remember you'll have that "residual resistance" amount to add into your final desired pull weight. And I have been taught to never have less than 16oz on the disconnector leaf of the SS.
HTHs
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19 minutes ago, fastglass1985 said:
+1 on using the MBF powder funnel on 9mm on the 1100.2000 rounds loaded with 0 problems.
fast: That's awesome!
Are you still using the Station #3 neck expander as installed from the factory?
Thanks!
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15 minutes ago, OptimiStick said:
.40 . Yes, direct from Dillon.
Thank you, and CONGRATULATIONS on the new press!
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1 hour ago, ddc said:
Hogrider,
I also am moving to an 1100 from a 650 where I had the MBF funnel installed in the powder measure.
I polish my MBF funnels and although stickiness is an occasional problem it hasn't been a show stopper.
For what its worth I only load 9mm.
For me the expander function of the swage die does not provide enough of a flare/expansion/whatever you want to call it/? to allow reliable dropping of a bullet from a bullet feeder.
I had to install my MBF funnel into the 1100 powder measure to get bullet feeder functionality equivalent to what I had on the 650.
The swage/expander die does do enough expanding such that I can place a bullet by hand although it is a bit tippy.
For me it was not quite enough to use with the bullet feeder.
Good luck, you are going to love the press. I really like my 650 but I really, really like my 1100.
ddc:
GREAT to hear from someone that has also enjoyed the results of the MBF powder funnel loading 9mm! I'm sure my unfamiliarity with the swage/expander die is causing a lot of my confusion; but having only reloaded 38S, .40, .45acp, and 9mm I'm still not understanding the benefit of using the expander at #3 then "belling" the mouth at #5!
Several years ago, when I first received the MBF funnel and had put it to use, I posted here at the Forum about how the MBF had eliminated the issue of shaving coated lead bullets and how stable the bullet was coming around to the seating die. On the XL650. Here in "red" is the type of flare/expansion I'm after whether it's coated lead, fmj, or jhp bullets:
This type of expansion created a very stable place for the bullet prior to seating; and I never had an issue with slanted/crooked seating.
At this point, I know that kind of expansion/flare is not possible with using the "universal powder activator" on the RL1100:
Again, THANK YOU for jumping in and giving me the confidence to know I can still use the MBF funnel with the 1100!
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1 hour ago, HIREDgun45 said:
The SV safeties are a bit different than most other brands, yhey have a 'Hammer Stop Pad' that you highlighted in red. On SV's site they have some fitting instructions: https://www.sviguns.com/Optifit.php
Looks like an excellent set of instructions!
Perform all safety tests.
The purpose of these instructions iInfinity OptiFit® - Thumb Safety Gunsmith Fitting * Installation Instructionss not to educate an inexperienced person on the proper fitting and testing of all aspects of safety installation. Installation and testing should only be performed by a trained and experienced professional. -
30 minutes ago, OptimiStick said:
Wow. My RL1100 showed up today. I ordered it on the 16th. Was told 8 weeks. Fedex dropped it off today. Not even 2 weeks.
Maybe the guy mispoke and meant 8 days, and they were a day late?
Mind me asking what caliber?
Direct from Dillon?
Thanks!
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8 hours ago, currahee1911 said:
okay, such as?
Here:
https://www.bunkerarms.com/product-page/bunker-arms-match-ignition-set
or here:
https://www.egwguns.com/egw-ignition-kit-w-lightened-hammer-blue
or here:
http://www.1911store.com/tunedtriggergroupbcg-proseries.aspx
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Having started on an XL650 many years ago, and still using an XL650 through last year, I ordered an RL1100 in January and it should arrive in a week to 10 days. Of course I'm very excited to move up to the S1050/RL1100 platform!
Have dl'd the RL Manual, and am trying to lay out a game-plan for learning the platform and getting started on 9mm; plus I've searched and read a ton of threads here on the Forum.
Several years ago I got introduced to the huge benefits of using the MBF powder die in my XL 650 powder measure. Extremely beneficial in bullet stability; FMJ and Coated alike. So after selling my XL650, I kept the extra UniqueTek micrometer modified powder measure along with my MBF powder dies. (9mm and .45acp)
So now, I'm seeing the 1050/1100 platform performs "Primer Pocket Swaging AND Case Neck Expanding" at station #3, then "Powder Dispensing and CASE BELLING" at Station #5 using an "Universal Pistol Powder Activator" (powder Funnel). Page 35 of the Dillon Manual gives a side by side comparison of the "standard" Dillon Pistol Powder Funnel next to the RL1100 Pistol Powder Activator.
Of course, I understand the value of the primer pocket swager; but I'm not sure of the benefits of the "case neck expander".......and will this step prevent me from using a MBF powder funnel under the powder measure in place of the 1100's universal powder activator?
While studying the standard Dillon powder funnel, which appears to be the same (for pistol) as what I've used with the XL650, and comparing it to the 1100 funnel, I'm wondering if the standard (XL650) funnel was expanding the neck AND flaring/belling the mouth in one station; and now the RL1100 is doing it at two, different stations? (#3 and #5)
If I sound confused, then forgive my ignorance........but I sure would like to hear from some seasoned S1050 users as to the benefits of these two functions being done at two different stations!! And can I indeed use the MBF powder funnel at Station #5 as I had always done with the XL650? (Powder drop station).
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm sure tmz would give some first hand knowledge of why he's running Dillon PM's on both Mark7s..............
https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/284657-sitting-around-having-a-beer-then-it-all-came-to-me/
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GDIS46:
If your a FaceBook user, I've seen a LOT of older parts come up for sale.............
Post here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DillonTrader/?ref=bookmarks
And here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DillonReloaders/
HTHs!!
PS: I've talked to SEVERAL different CS Reps at Dillon concerning a press I've had ordered for 13 weeks, and I have to say it's very easy to get conflicting information as many employees are working remotely (from home?). Last call I made yesterday was actually someone still working out of the shop.........
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On 4/23/2020 at 8:37 PM, muncie21 said:
I have an older SVI 2011 that I installed the SV single sided-wide safety on and really enjoyed the angle and feel.
Sooo... I says to myself, why not buy one to install on my Limited STI . It only took about 5 seconds to figure out that something was wrong after I installed it. Trigger didn't feel right and the hammer would only drop to half-cock. When I compared the STI safety to the SVI one, I noticed major differences in the action/contour.
So my question for the group- Is this an issue of minor fitting? Or are SV safeties not designed to fit into STI frames and I'm basically screwed?
I feel confident the SVI safety is like most other premium safeties as they are a bit over-sized and require experienced fitting; usually by a qualified gunsmith. Remember, this is your primary safety and must pass all safety function tests!
If your determined to try fitting this yourself, then this .pdf contains some excellent instructional information!
https://shop.harrisoncustom.com/images/uploaded/pdf/Extreme Service Thumb Safety_June 2016.pdf
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9 hours ago, OptimiStick said:
Yeah, I ordered my RL1100 in 40 a few weeks ago. Was told 8 weeks. I asked if it was the same for all calibers, he said no - that .40 was on the short list. .223 was much longer wait.
I decided to do an RL1100 in .40 instead of a caliber change for my Revolution Pro. I'll leave it set up for 9mm, which is the bulk of what I do. Then move the 550 and 650 to .45 and 223
Op:
I talked to another Sales Rep at Dillon today trying to get a "feel" as to when it will ship...........told me to call back next Wednesday. He feels I'll have the press in hand within 10 days.......of course, I'm not holding my breath!
I did press him about delays in the 9mm machines as I had heard/read that it was due to unavailability of 9mm dies. Well, he strongly stated that they were waiting on the CARBIDE INSERTS for the 9mm dies that come from California; and that they press them into the die bodies right there at Dillon. Also said they were waiting on Case Feeders; but expected them about the same time as the carbide inserts. Normal shipments were usually around 1k pieces of the carbide; but right now they were lucky to get 100 at a time.
The really sad part is he stated that .223 orders were at a total standstill as the CARBIDE INSERTS for those dies come from the country of Israel, and that country is in a total shut down and manufacturing NOTHING!
Also re--affirmed that receiving an RL1100 without the dies was not an option from Dillon. They had to be assembled, setup, and tested in the caliber of choice before it would leave.
What really rubs me the wrong way is the RL1100 ordering page still states this:
Please note: Due to overwhelming demand, machine orders are currently taking six to eight weeks to ship. We are shipping daily, and backorders are being shipped in order of placement.
I wonder how Mike Dillon would have handled this situation.............I'm sure he's greatly missed!
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4 minutes ago, kamber said:
I got it in a few days ago, but won't be setup to use it until mid summer when their new primer collator ships unfortunately. =\
Gotcha.........I remember you pointing that out earlier.........
Good luck!
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12 hours ago, kamber said:
Congrats @HOGRIDER, I'm sure you're going to love it. Enjoy cranking 'em out!
Thanks kamber!
I'm also looking forward to your reviews of the Mk7!
Mounting the RL1100
in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment
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Thought I'd follow up with my mount position........was still able to stick the index finger freely behind the handle in full down stroke.
Again, my bench height is 40 & 1/2".